Full metal jacket ?

[rraming]

Originally posted by Shawn Leonard:
That is the problem you are using stu's calculator, it has everyone I know who has tried it overspinned Shawn

I shoot a Predator recurve 54lbs at 28'" I draw 28. Set Stu's calc to 0 cut past center(adjusted for side plate, it's 1/16 past center without) 16 strand FF string and I shoot GT5575 29.25" with 225 up front and they spine within 2. I can bareshaft this perfect. So now you know a guy who it works for, promise.  

[JamesKerr]

Originally posted by rraming:
 

Originally posted by Shawn Leonard:
That is the problem you are using stu's calculator, it has everyone I know who has tried it overspinned Shawn

I shoot a Predator recurve 54lbs at 28'" I draw 28. Set Stu's calc to 0 cut past center(adjusted for side plate, it's 1/16 past center without) 16 strand FF string and I shoot GT5575 29.25" with 225 up front and they spine within 2. I can bareshaft this perfect. So now you know a guy who it works for, promise.      [/b]

That's exactly how my setup shoots and comes in to the calculator. I believe that there is always many different set ups that will work for the same bow. Ah but there's more than one way to skin that cat. I am going to try paper tuning and see what it does. Regardless of the results I probably won't change much as my flight is perfect, and it works for me.

[CheyenneFoote]

I would stay away from the hit arrows (FMJ's and AXIS), the front of the shaft is not strong enough and will abosorb your arrows energy when they splinter and they will when you hit something hard like bone! I have some FMJ's I'll send if you really want them, but the shafts are pushed in all the way to the hidden inserts.

[684Kevin]

You should be fine with the 400s.  I am shooting a 58# Zipper longbow at 28.75" draw and am using 400's with a 100 gr brass insert and 125 gr tips.  I take my first bare shaft set up like this and keep cutting a little off the nock end until it flys perfect.  You may even find with the recurve limbs your using you can get away with using the 75 gr inserts that comes with the FMJs.

[Rob DiStefano]

the bottom line is ..... YOU need to do yer own testing.  

arrow/bow stuff isn't that generic - all this typing by everyone can be guidelines at best.

[team fudd]

Definitely buy those arrows macsdad!  That way I can have all your vapors!      Hope you get it figured out buddy but not so well that you smoke me in the dart league.  

[macksdad]

Dont worry Matt you'll get them vapors

[Shawn Leonard]

Sorry won't argue anymore, but that .400 spine out of the Predator is stiff, could care less what ya think it is. Most guys need to shoot about 63-65#s with a predator and 250-275 up front with a 29.5" arrow and a 28" draw or so. Sure they may fly ok for ya, add another 100 grains and watch how well they really fly! Shawn

[JamesKerr]

Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
the bottom line is ..... YOU need to do yer own testing.  

arrow/bow stuff isn't that generic - all this typing by everyone can be guidelines at best.

Amen. What works for me may or may not work for you. You can get a pretty good idea of what works for you here but it will probably never be perfect.