I would agree with all the above,especially Bills statement that shortening the Grizzlly made it seem harder to shoot. I have had dozens of the older bears over the years, and the Kodiaks were smoother, had more mass weight in the riser which I like, and seemed faster than the grizzly's I had, especially the later ones. To be trueful, seemed like all the older bears stacked a little to me, and the kodiak less than the cheaper models. I dont know, maybe I was just weaker when I was younger, anyway my 2 cents worth.