I have a timber tall stand. Not the baby lite. I don't remember the name of the model. I bought it because it was 6 lbs. lighter than my other climber. It adjusts for level when up in the tree which is nice. There are some things I don't like about it. It's noisy setting up and climbing with it. I don't like the backpack straps, you put them on and off everytime because they attach to the seat part instead of the platform. It's a little tight and I'm not a big guy. I've used it for 3 or 4 years now and the only reason is the weight. I have a herniated disc in my neck and the lighter weight helps. If weight isn't much of an issue for you, I would suggest something else. I don't have a problem with the wrap around bar. I wouldn't have a climber without one.