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Offline String Cutter

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Hill bows and spine
« on: December 17, 2011, 06:44:00 AM »
I have a Hill type longbow and was wandering if you Hill Shooters could help me out with spine??? the bow is 52@28. I draw 28 inches . I would like the arrows to come out to about 29.5 inches and use a 145gr. point. Want to have a set up for both wood and Alum. In wood I would like a 11/32 tappered down to 5/16 and use 3 5inch feathers.... Any help would be great.... Tried Stu's Cal. but can't figure it out??
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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 08:47:00 AM »
55-60# should work fine.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 09:24:00 AM »
Never tried tapers, but my Shelton seems to like 55-60 parallel shaft cedars. I don't think I draw 28" with a Hill style, but my bow is 54# @ 28" so it probably comes out about the same.

At 29.5" and 145 grains, you'll probably be looking at a 2016 or 2018. You could also use one of the fatter aluminums too. I like the skinnier ones, so I haven't experimented with the 21s or 22s. The newer Eastons are spine rated rather than size. I just picked up a dozen 500 spine Gamegetters for $35 bucks on sale at Dick's Sporting Goods. I haven't tried them yet though. The chart on the back of the carton shows those should work for you as well with up to 150 grains up front of a 29.5" shaft. A lot will depend on how close to center your bow is cut though.
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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 04:53:00 PM »
Yeah, I think 55-60 would work for you. It might not be a bad idea to get you a test pack. You can get one from Braveheart Archery or 3 Rivers. That way you can experiment with different point weights and total arrow weights. A Hill is going to really like a heavy arrow. I'd say shoot for a 550 grain total arrow weight. 600 grains isn't too heavy to shoot out of your bow and will hit with a lot of oomph. You can easily get that weight with Surewoods. With POC, you'll need to go with a stiffer spine and a heavier point weight.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 06:18:00 PM »
55-60 should be fine. I shoot 60-65 tappered 11/32 to 5/16  29.5" with 200 grs up front off of my 51# HH.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 06:39:00 PM »
Try some heavy arrows for sure,you will be impressed.I had a friend over last week that was a big time compound user.I was shooting wood shafts with 145gr broadheads and he kept commenting on how much harder my arrows where hitting the target.I found a 200 gr field point and screwed it on a 2020 alumn, arrow and it went completly thru the foot thick foam block,skipped off the ground and went about 30 yours into the woods.The field point was a lil bigger around than the shaft so that probobly helped but it blew the guys mind,kinda surprized me too.This was with a #55 hill style longbow.The compound the other guy was shooting was #70 and his light carbon arrows with 100gr broadheads were not even poking out the back side of the foam block.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 07:27:00 PM »
get a test of of whatever flavor shafting you prefer and then you'll real world know FOR SURE what will and won't work.  that kit will be used a bunch over the years/decades ....
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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 07:46:00 PM »
A test kit is the only way to go, either buy one or make your own.  I have seen lots of times when Hills prefer less spine, even with guys that always liked to go over spine, guys like me, then are surprised to find that they were better with less spine.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 07:49:00 PM »
For woodies I wouldn't count out 50-55# spine for a Hill Style bow. Depending on how far from center shot your riser is cut I also wouldn't count out 1916's for aluminum. Maybe 2016's
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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »
Under spined for LB not cut to center. I would also try the 50/55 and try the 45/50. Good luck and have fun.

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 03:49:00 AM »
my hill is 50lbs. and I shoot tapered cedars at 40-45 and get perfect flight

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Re: Hill bows and spine
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 06:29:00 AM »
55-60 would be the ticket here with 145 to 160 gr points.
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