Tip weight

[acollins]

I am setting up some new arrows for my 50# recurve. I have 2016 arrows. I have cut them down to 29". My draw is 28. I am shooting a 125 grain point.  My question is. Is 125 grains enough weight for hunting.  I see where guys are shooting 200 grains. If I add more weight my arrows will be to weak.  How do I get more point weight. Do I need stiffer arrows to start with or is there another way.

[rbbhunt]

If the 2016 shoot well with 125 grn points, you will need stiffer shafts (or cut yours shorter) to shoot heavier points.  I have a 54# (at 27") recurve that I shoot 2020 with a 75 gr steel screw-in adapter and 150 gr glue-on broadhead. Shafts are 27.5" lg.  The screw-in adapters are available in different weights so you can do some tuning to get the arrow flying right or use a glue-on braodhead that you like and increase the point weight.

[Pat B.]

If your set up is tuned you will be fine with the 125's for deer..  IMO..

[cedar]

There is nothing wrong with your 125 gr points, that set-up will kill any animal in North America imo.  If it is shooting good, leave it alone.  Now if you are like most of us trad guys and like to watch the arrow fly, then tinker abit.

[Austin Brown]

Yep, if it shoots good I wouldn't mess with it, absolutely kill any deer sized game in the world.

[Smithhammer]

I would respectfully disagree with the above, particularly if you are hunting larger game, such as elk. Sure, you may - if your arrow placement is precisely on target - drop an elk with a light arrow (and a 2016 with no weight insert and a 125 gr. point is a light arrow), but there are many reasons why adding weight up front will stack the odds in your favor for hunting larger game. And just as importantly for the animal's sake - better penetration (through increased point weight), combined with accurate shooting, will tend to mean a more effective and quicker kill. I would highly recommend adding more weight for large game. You will still be able to tune a well-flying arrow, it will just take a little more fiddling to find the right combo.

[Austin Brown]

I can't speak for anything bigger than deer, but considering he's in Indiana I doubt he is chasing anything bigger than deer regularly.  I'll stick with what I said before, if it's shooting good don't mess with it unless money isn't an object and you want to play around.

[Smithhammer]

Even with deer, I would still stand by the above. Overkill is underrated, imo...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I have killed a few deer with that arrow set up with a 50# bow. I now shoot woodies and 160grn points for the added weight and better penetration.

[Rufus]

I just weighed a 2016 cut to 28" with a 125 gr. pt. installed and it weighs 472 gr. which divided by 50 = 9.44 gr. per lb. of draw weight.
 That ought to be pretty efficient for that bow.
  A 2018 (28") shaft with a 145 gr. pt. weighs 527 gr. and that tallies out to 10.54 gr. per # of draw weight @ 50#. This arrow would probably shoot well also.
 In my archery experience of 40 or so years 9-11 gr. per # of draw weight was good for the efficiency of the bow which most important.
 Just realize that if  your not drawing and shooting a true  28" it changes the whole game.
 Either arrow will do the job, just remember it's where you hit that counts. There is nothing out there in this country that when using this set up  that the ribcage will not be shot through. A friend of mine killed a 367# pig at 11 yds. with a 43# bow. I don't know the arrow weight but I do know that he and I both use the same arrows hunting, stumping or 3-D'ing and they usually weigh in the 500 gr. area. Just my 2 pennies worth!

[Rufus]

I just weighed a 2016 cut to 28" with a 125 gr. pt. installed and it weighs 472 gr. which divided by 50 = 9.44 gr. per lb. of draw weight.
 That ought to be pretty efficient for that bow.
  A 2018 (28") shaft with a 145 gr. pt. weighs 527 gr. and that tallies out to 10.54 gr. per # of draw weight @ 50#. This arrow would probably shoot well also.
 In my archery experience of 40 or so years 9-11 gr. per # of draw weight was good for the efficiency of the bow which most important.
 Just realize that if  your not drawing and shooting a true  28" it changes the whole game.
 Either arrow will do the job, just remember it's where you hit that counts. There is nothing out there in this country that when using this set up  that the ribcage will not be shot through. A friend of mine killed a 367# pig at 11 yds. with a 43# bow. I don't know the arrow weight but I do know that he and I both use the same arrows hunting, stumping or 3-D'ing and they usually weigh in the 500 gr. area. Just my 2 pennies worth!

[Rufus]

Sorry, bout the double post. Didn't mean to be that adamant bout my thinkin'   )

[Smithhammer]

I'm not going to debate people using lighter set ups. I'll just add that just because something "flies well" isn't the only criteria I look at when deciding what to shoot for large game. Lots of different set ups can "fly well" while target shooting, but have poor penetrating power, particularly if you hit bone. I look for a set up that both flies well, and that has significant penetrating power - not for when my shot is perfect, but for when my shot is less than perfect.

And, that in addition to just paying attention to overall arrow weight, pay attention to your % of FOC  - it can make a significant difference in penetration.

[Rufus]

No debate here either. Mine works and I don't have any animals running around with arrows hanging out of them. Yours works and your happy. Good enuff for me.
 Good day to you sir.