New to carbons, is this normal?

[SCATTERSHOT]

Well, I decided to try some carbons, so I bought some Carbon Express 45/60 shafts, expecting them to be similar to a few Beeman 500's I have. These things spine at 80#(!) I figured they would spine at 60# or so.
Is this normal, and can I get them to fly out of a 52# longbow, or should I get something else?

[Landshark160]

Is that at full length?

[mcgroundstalker]

I shoot 45/60 Carbon Express Rebels from my Black Widow TFV. Bow is 51# @ 26" ... My draw is just under 26" ... Arrow shaft is 28" with a 100gr. brass insert and 125gr. broadhead. This works for me.

... mike ...

[kennym]

I bought CX Eliminators 350's(thought I was getting Terminators) 64" 52# hybrid cut to center,d97 string with  175 up front ,had to cut them to 31 1/2" ,they fly great!!

[Shawn Leonard]

If ya leave them long and add at least 250 grains up front , yes. carbons are spined based on 14" centers, when done the trad. way 13" centers they spine way higher. A 35/55 is close to 75#s and a 75/95 is like 120#s. Shawn

[SCATTERSHOT]

Thanks. These are cut to 28 1/2". Probably take a bajillion grains up front?

Thanks for the help.

[Shawn Leonard]

Yup, cut to 28.5"s ya will need at least 325 up front to get them to bareshaft, remeber a fletched arrow even 30#s over spine will hit where ya look afte  afew shots as your brain adjust, flight will just be terrible. Shawn

[dposalski]

Hate to hijack this thread, but I just decided to switch to carbons as well.  I picked up a beman 470 bare shaft and started to try and tune it.  I got to taking off about 2 inches with 65 grains up front and it is coming into line.  I assume that I will have to take off about another inch to get it to take about 100 to 125 up front.  BTW I am using a 55# bow at 28.  I assume this is right because the arrow started way nock left and then as I shortened it it started coming to center.  I put in a heavier tip ad the nock went back to the left again.

I ran out of light last night, so I should be able to get it dialed in tonight.  

Another question...  I did this with one bare shaft only.  I then read that you have to have a few fletched as well to see how they react against each other...  Am I doing it wrong?  I was hoping to get the one and then when I get the bare shaft dialed in I could go get the others made to that.  What am I missing?

[Steertalker]

SCATTERSHOT,

Woods are spined a 26 inches whereas carbons and aluminuns are spined at 28 inches.  Your 45/60 shafts should work fine for your setup provided you go through the proper tuning process.

Don't get in hurry and trim too much off at a time.  Trim 1/4 inch at a time til they start getting close then you may only want to trim 1/8 or 1/16 inches at a time.

Since you are shooting a longbow you'll probably want them to spine a tad weak.

Brett

[MarkH]

Gene
Your Beman 500s have a deflection of .500

Your Carbon Express 45/60s have a deflection of .400

If you're looking for a Carbon Express arrow with a deflection close to .500 then look at these. I rounded off slightly.

CX 100 - .530

CX 200 - .460

Maxima 150 - .500

[SCATTERSHOT]

Thanks for the help, guys. I'm up to 250 grains up front, and they are starting to come around. The bow is a Pronghorn, and has FF string on it.

[Shawn Leonard]

Brett gives good advice.Remember when bareshafting ya always want it to be ever so slightly weak, as when ya add feathers it will stiffen ever so slightly. Shawn