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Offline Lonala

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2012, 05:20:00 AM »
Brace height 6.5,10grns per# my Wesley is dead in the hand and quiet as a mouse.D97 by Oliverstacy Im Out..
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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2012, 07:21:00 AM »
Congratulations on one of the finest lb's made! I'm w/Matt on this one in that a tighter grip works for me (35 years). Shot through a severe wincing shoulder injury (non archery related) last year. This will teach how NOT to hold the bow. Immediate feedback! My grip is firm w/all fingers plus maintain your pose until the arrow reaches the target. HS is not an issue holding the bow correctly IMHO.
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Offline Swamp Yankee

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 09:27:00 PM »
Low wrist with even palm pressure against the whole handle with a firm grip works best for me to minimize, but not eliminate, the "thump" from a Hill LB.  In my experience, LBs have more handshock than recurves, but not all are unpleasant.
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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 10:51:00 PM »
30coupe - "using a skinny, low stretch string. Just make sure you pad the loops well. I like 18 strands in the loops (10 of D97 and 8 of B50 works well)"

I understand your 18 strands for padding, but then how many strands of low stretch do you use for your skinny string?

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2012, 12:12:00 AM »
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30coupe - "using a skinny, low stretch string. Just make sure you pad the loops well. I like 18 strands in the loops (10 of D97 and 8 of B50 works well)"

I understand your 18 strands for padding, but then how many strands of low stretch do you use for your skinny string?

Thanx,
Gary
I know guys go less, but I usually use 10 strands. I have gone as low as eight, but they seem to have more creep and don't necessarily gain a big performance edge over 10.

All the extra strands in the loops are B50, so the 10 strands from the main string and eight short strands of B50 for padding. I have also used D97 for padding but found no advantage, and I feel better cutting cheap B50 into little short chunks.     :rolleyes:
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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2012, 03:16:00 AM »
I don't worry about hand shock until it pops the lid off my chew can or knocks the change out of my pockets.  On one of my bows, a recurve, I held the bow much like Rob demonstrates so I could clear my coat and not bother with the arm guard, but I found that after a long practice session, my thumb felt like it was sprained. This past September I tried it with a lighter left hand recurve, I had a ruptured disc and cracked ribs, and the bow, as my chiropractor called it, bruised a nerve in my thumb joint, so I changed the grip to get a bit more of my hand onto the bow. I must add that I have had a line of work that did not do my hands any favors over the years.  Planting a longbow so that it contacts bone lower than my thumb is a lot better for my thumbs and with my longbows keeping the joints bent and not topping out or forced straight gets me the least amount of shock, although I am not really try to squeeze blood out of the handle either, tight enough so that it does not move in my hand on release.

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2012, 09:44:00 AM »
The harder a bow kicks the harder I choke it till I win.
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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2012, 10:09:00 AM »
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The harder a bow kicks the harder I choke it till I win.
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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2012, 12:45:00 PM »
^ like Rob said

Offline Zbone

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2012, 06:23:00 PM »
Thanx 30coupe

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Re: HH hand shock
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2012, 03:46:00 PM »
Well, guys, I learned something today. When I got my Shelton, it came with a string, so I just strung it up and started to shoot. It braced at about 7", so I figured that was where it needed to be. I worked on grip, swing draw, etc. It shot great, but there was some hand shock, especially noticeable after shooting my Kanati.

I made a skinny string, thinking that would help like it did with my Mahaska. It helped, but not quite as much as I had hoped. I was stumped! I had the string braced at about 7" or just under, like the one that came with the bow. Then I read a post by mikebiz in the HH thread about bracing his Hill bows between 5.25 and 6" so the arrow had more string time and hence more cast.

I thought it couldn't hurt, so I started to unwind my string and shoot. At 6.25" hand shock was noticeably less. At 6" it was essentially gone! I'm now at 5.75" brace height. I have no noticeable hand shock, the bow is still quiet as a mouse fart, and I may have picked up a bit of speed as a bonus!

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