hack bow just sent me an email after reading my post about how I just aquired a bow horse and a set of draw knives and scrapers, I was asking about which is the best stave to buy, so he is going to send me an osage stave for free!, the genorosity of people on this site is just one of the things that tradgangers great people, I hope to give back someday to everyone that has helped me out, now guys, this will be my first bow, so I will probably need some help along the way, I can post pics, wish me luck and thanks hackbow!!!!!!