Weak or waaay too stiff?

[Shan]

I hate to involve everyone with my tuning issues but I cant seem to figure this one out.........

  TACKLE
 Im shooting a Predator Hunter 60@28. My draw is 29in. Arrows are 30" Gold Tip Hunter Black 7595. I have a 100gr insert and a 125gr point. Also 3x4" feathers.


  RESULTS  
Im bareshaft tuning. Two fletched shafts and two bare shafts. I consistantly group the fletched shafts together and the bareshafts together but about a foot to the right and usually about 8" low of the fleched shafts (the best i could get after playing with nocking point).


I have 175gr points and they seemed to act the same as the 125s. 100gr also acts the same. What should i do? I dont know if it is actually weak or if it is soo stiff that it is showing weak. What do you more exp. members think I should try next?

[Green]

My "experience" says post this in Pow Wow and you'll get more responses.  Lol.

[Jack Whitmire Jr]

IMO you are way toooo stiff , try a  weaker bare shaft and see what it does for comparison .

[Armand]

If you take a trip over to O.L.Adcock web page and read down through his bow tuning page he has a great deal of info on arrow tuning and that will show you formulas for finding the right arrow, and i would also suggest getting the arrow tuning field points through 3 rivers, that will give you a range of tips from 100gr. through 250gr. which will also help when building a new shaft or find out spine problems with shafts that you already use, the bare shaft/fletched shaft test on O.L.Adcock page really helped me find out i was way over spine and with the adjustable point kit i got from 3 Rivers i can take a shaft and make them fit my set up perfect, i was using 2114 and after doing the test i found out i needed a 1916 so as you can see from my test i was way out of the bell curve of being in tune. Right now i am going to switch over to 2013's so i have a set full length with fletch and non fletched arrows and will keep shooting and trimming until i get the un-fletched and fletched hitting in the same spot and i have found that doing this test with BH it made my confidence level grow to where i have opened my kill range up to 30 yards, well i hope this helps out some, i have spent hours in the shop trying this with several bows if you need any more help let me know

[Shan]

Guys, THanks for all the input!! Im going to post this over on pow wow like Green mentioned.

Armand thanks for the tips, I'll head over to 3rivers and buy one right one. seems like a good thing to have. I have been lookng at OL's site and successfully tuned my longbow using the bareshaft method but am having trouble with this recurve. thanks again everyone!

[gretchen]

I'm thinking you're way stiff. Once you cut a 75/95 you automatically stiffen it way up and 250 grains is not enough weight upmfront tom get it back in tune.


Try a 55/75 full length with the 100 grain insert and the 125 tip and see what happens might be just a little weak. If so then cut 1/8" off the arrow and shoot it again.


Dewayne