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Offline SL

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longbow wood spine
« on: January 29, 2012, 10:04:00 PM »
Im thinking of going back to wood shafts. I need some input on spine.
I have a monarch Lb that is 54 @27 and I pull about 26.5 with this bow. The bow is cut about 1/4 from center with the strike plate in place. FF string.
I have tried a couple of 60/65 and they shoot left.
Im thinking of trying some 50/55 with 160 grain points. Whats your thoughts gang? Not light enough or too light? BTW axia 500's at 28 inches with 325 grains shoot pretty good if that matters.
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 10:15:00 PM »
woodies usually are a bit temperamental to match up with a bow and archer.  if two archers shot the same bow at the same draw length, they might need different woodie arrow spines.

i recommend getting a woodie test kit such as what surewood offers (through braveheartarchery), a variety of point weights and take it from there.
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 10:21:00 PM »
How long do you want your arrows?

I'm tinkering with a similar setup but it's a tad lighter (53 @ 27 - 1/4" off center) and was thinking of 55 spined shafts at 30.5 with 145 tips.

What weight are/were you using on the 60/65 spined arrows?

I still have some fine tuning to do but your sounds like it might be a good starting point.

I struggle with wood shaft tuning.  :(
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 10:24:00 PM »
50 spine with that heavy a point might be a bit wimpy. 55 would likely be close. Again it depends on how long the shaft is when finished. Got any buds with arrows you can test drive ? I've got one longbow that is 55 @28 and I pull 27 1/2. I cut my woods at 28 1/2", add the point (125gr) and nock and am good to go.
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Offline SL

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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 10:34:00 PM »
I thought about the test kit Rob and honestly Ill probably go that route. Thought I would get some opinions though.

Bud
the 60/65 arrows are 29 inches and have 160 grains on them.
Im really looking for a 28 inch arrow with the 160 grain for weight. I know what ya mean about struggling with wood.

Flint
All my buds are carbon shooter and really I am too, cept I wanted to try the woodies with this bow. I could probably wait until the vanderpool shoot if I dont get the test kit first.
SL

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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 11:07:00 PM »
Test kit is a good idea.  Wouldn't go any lighter than the 50-55# you're thinking about.  Monarch is a pretty zippy bow, particularly with a ff string.  I've always found them to shoot a fairly broad range of spines well. I'm a little surprised the 60-65# don't shoot well for you. Most I've owned and seen have been cut 1/8 from center, but the leather shelf/side plate is usually rather thick.  Could substitute a thinner side plate.  Also, it's a good idea to check the spine of the arrows you're shooting. They're not always what folks say they are.  Good luck.

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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 11:18:00 PM »
Test kits are a good way to go. I provide them for $5 an arrow. I think with an arrow cut 28" bop you'll probably find that 50/55's will work for you.
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 04:17:00 AM »
I second a test kit... But i have luck with 55-60 in my 50lb bows
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 04:26:00 AM »
I second a test kit... But i have luck with 55-60 in my 50lb bows
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Re: longbow wood spine
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 07:36:00 AM »
You'll notice that spine appears different with different types of wood.  Some of the hardwoods recover slower than spruce and cedar so the bareshaft test will make them look way under spined in comparison.  There are a lot of people who don't even use the bareshaft test with wood arrows, especially when the bow is not center-shot.  To make up for the personality of wood shafts, I just use a 5" fletch.  Works great.  I can use whatever wood I feel like and they all shoot the same.  Use a test kit to get as close as possible (probably won't be perfect) and then increase your fletch size until things are perfect.

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