I have my elbow bent some. I think my grip looks right, comparing it to pictures I have seen. I guess I could bend my elbow more. I have read Fergusan's book numerous times and have watched videos. I think I am doing it right. I am going to have my wife try to video me this weekend. I will see if I can get it posted when we do. No apology needed, I need all the help I can get. I went from an Oneida to another Oneida, played around with a recurve that was really stacking on me for a month or so and then I got this Hill. The Oneidas were over a period of 20 years, mostly hunting whitetail. That is my archery experience, at a glance. I never cut my arrows with the Oneidas even though my rest was back, I think the release helped with my draw then. I seem to be anchoring my right thumb behind my ear like I did when shooting with a release. Thank you