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Author Topic: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!  (Read 252 times)

Offline Trumpkin the Dwarf

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The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« on: February 11, 2012, 04:32:00 PM »
First of all, my apologies for the title, I wanted this to get as much attention as possible  :readit:  
It is February and spring is coming   :bigsmyl:   . In other words, educate the clueless(me) in the ways of the spring bear hunter! What are the traps and pitfalls of stalking black bears?   :help:
Malachi C.

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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 05:53:00 PM »
Hmmm.  Penultimate means "next to the last." Hope this isn't your next to the last bear hunt.

Don't know if it's still in print, but "Do-It-Yourself Black Bear Baiting and Hunting," by Ken Nordberg is one of the best books around on  hunting for bear.  It's published by Shingle Creek Outdoor Productions, Minneapolis. Good luck.

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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 06:00:00 PM »
Oops! I should have known my word choice was less than perfect. Oh well, it just punctuates my lack of knowledge concerning bears. I will have to look into the book, thanks!
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 06:02:00 PM »
Look for south facing slops with with big rocks and new grass.  they have poor eye sight but good noses.
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 06:39:00 PM »
Find wet areas (not hard in the spring) with fresh grass.  I'm not a big spring bear hunter, but I've seen up to five or six bears in a day doing this.
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 07:15:00 PM »
I'm far from pro....BUT...I did guide for a black bear outfitter for awhile  in northern Alberta in early May for a couple of years. Lots of info I cant cover...but here is what I learned in a nutshell.

When bears awake from hibernation, their internals are not ready for just any type of feed. Grass and greens are first. Meat is not readily acceptable when they awake. I filmed many bears, including one MONSTER who in my opinion just woke up,( a skinny post hibernation 400+ pounds) who attempted to feed on beaver carcasses but quickly vomited and moved on... to smaller bears who had already been up and about and had killed their first moose calf.
In northern Alberta, smaller bears were more active early. The big boys were almost better hunted June 1st or later. Not that they werent up, but not feeding normally yet. Baiting was tough. Spot and stalk as said here on sunny slopes offering greens were a big advantage, but there were hundreds of spots to choose from.
This is only from 2 years experience though, before life had me back to reality. So Bear guides please chime in. Add to my findings. Big bears in the far north seemed very inactive  before June 1st. After that they seemed very willing to hit meat, carcasses( beaver in my old area of Alberta)and sugars(fermented barly and rye, donuts, etc).  If you can find an area early in the season with limited slopes with plenty of sunshine,.....bears will be there to eat grass as they get awake.   But I'd rather wait an extra  couple to a few weeks to when they are all actively feeding and wait for that "I'm the boss" attitude bear to walk in on a bait pile and chase all others off.
I know its different depending on area, so I'm waiting to learn myself on "non northern Alberta" areas!
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »
Thanks for the replies so far! Here in Montana you cannot bait bears so spot and stalk seems like the best idea.
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 08:35:00 PM »
I know of a couple old boars that would come out in early April but most bears here don't.In my area,things pick up dramatically by about May 10th.It can vary year to year but most years,starting before May 1 is just a waste,at least where I'm at.

First new tracks of the year,a big boar in mid-April.
 

As stated,they will be looking for new green grass.If the grass isn't up yet in your area,bears won't be active.Toward mid and late May,you will see more and more rocks turned and logs pried open as they start to add protein to their diets but they still dine on grass as well.

They will also have to drink daily so isolated springs in otherwise dry country can be a good place to set up.Large water sources don't help much as that doesn't narrow them down.They love to mess around beaver dams and workings.In hot weather,like 80+,they need to soak to cool off.This could be a pond,water trough-it just has to be deep enough to wallow in at least.

They do like cover and often won't venture far out in the open,at least where I hunt.They prefer smaller meadows with cover near or at least to feed on the edge of larger ones.They may have a favorite side of a meadow to graze on.This may be a side that is in shade longer and the grass may be less dry.

You just need to pick an area and find the grassy meadows and water sources.When the grass is up and thick enough for some grazing,start hunting.

You can't fool a bear's nose-ever,so learn the wind currents and thermals where you hunt and have a plan of how to move around without having the wing at your back.

As you learn your area,look for trails to and from the meadows or skirting them.Also trails to and from water.Sometimes bears have their own trails through thick cover.These may have overhanging limbs that would keep deer and elk from using them and you won't see any hoof marks.

That curved tree that the bow leans against is a favorite bear rubbing tree.It hasn't been chewed on or rubbed in years but it is a preferred tree for rubbing.It is at a prominent spot on a prominent trail.Every time through,I check it for fresh hair and remove any I find so I know the next time if anybody has been back.
 
Another bear rub tree on a bear only trail in thick cover.
 
This marking tree was used for sure by a big boar.I don't know if others use them as well.It is clawed and chewed almost as high as I can reach and new hair shows up pretty frequently.
 
In the area I hunt,these trees are mostly cedars.The tree always is at the side of a trail and if it leans toward the trail,so much the better.I don't know if bears in all areas mark the same as they do here but I'd be looking.

I've seen these trees hit in early April and activity seems to step up toward the rut-May 25th to late June,here.

Bear hunting just gets better with each passing week.A couple units stay open till June 15th and those couple weeks of June can be dynamite,especially if you have located an old sow with yearling cubs.She will kick them off and come into heat during that time.

Bears hate high winds and heavy storms and will lay up during those times.A clear day after one of these fronts can be super.

Bears may not have great eyesight but they will recognize an upright figure from a long ways of so be aware of that.

Pay close attention on trails,you often may not have ideal snow or mud for clear tracks but if you look very close,sometimes you find press marks in the dirt.No clear,detailed track but just pressed looking places as if someone walked the trail in moccasins.Sometimes new,seeding grass shoots will be mashed into the dirt.The sign is there but it might be subtle.

Sometimes in the mornings,I can see clearly where a bear just walked through a lush meadow.

An old,mother bear getting relief from the heat in July.
 

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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 09:13:00 PM »
Jim very good post.....
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Re: The Penultimate Thread Concerning Bears!
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 10:19:00 PM »
Thanks for the response everyone! I have another question now...So if bears start out the spring eating green grass, does that mean they will follow the receding snowline? Also, are bears easier to find during the rut?(sorta like elk?)
Malachi C.

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