Habu Vyperkahn vs Silvertip recurve

[Longrifleman]

I'm curious if anyone out there has both of these bows,and if they can tell me the differences when shooting them? I have a Vyperkahn & have ordered a Silvertip, but am curious as to what others think.

[L. E. Carroll]

I think your going to have the "Start" of a "Great Collection" of Custom Bows             ... Now once you get a couple 3 or 4 Morrison's, a Kwyk Styk or 2 and that Tall Tines in hand.... your gonna' have a Huge Smile on your face            But a somewhat diminished bank account            

Ask me how I know.        
[ BTW, yes... at one point I also owned a Habu, but have since traded it off... Mine was a very nice bow]  

Gene

[A.S.]

Where is Mike Walker??

[overbo]

I've owned both and still have a VK.If you have the VK longbow or hycurve it's IMO  quite different than a Tip recurve.
The Tip recurve has stayed pretty much the same even since Paul was building them.Nothing wrong w/ that,tried and true.The Tip will likely be a bit smoother in draw.Speed don't know and don't care.Craftsmenship dead heet IMO.More artistry w/ a Tip.
Why I didn't stick w/ the Tip?Felt the limb design was a bit noodlley for my preference.Where as the VK limbs are twistproof.
I also prefer the penmanship on the Tip as well.

[Bowwild]

I have both and love em! I have done some pretty elaborate measuring of these bows at my draw length with two weight arrows; 414 and 505 grains.

Wow, you can't go wrong with either.  

I'm going out on a limb here sharing this info because lots of folks don't like this kind of detail.

I have a 2011 Silvertip: 60" 46#@26".
The Habu I'll compare is 2012 Vyperkahn Recurve: 46#@26" -- this is triple carbon and newest of the new (thanks Mike!).

414 Grain/505 Grain Arrow

Silvertip 176 FPS and 163 FPS
Habu 168 FPS and 158 FPS

I also divide the FPS by bow weight to come up with my own "performance" hot index.

The Silvertip is 3.83 and the Habu is 3.65.  The Silvertip is 5% "hotter".

The silvertip is the top performer, according to these measurements of all my bows.  (Most would be shocked to know what #2 is and I ain't saying in public because it cost me about $1,600 LESS than either one of these babies).

Both bows are beautifully made and a joy to shoot. They have pretty different grips. The Habu comes standard with a lower grip, which I like a lot. The Silvertip has a very contoured grip and mine is checkered.

I'll end with this. I should hunt with the Silvertip, but I hunt with the Habu.

[Night Wing]

Originally posted by Bowwild:
I'm going out on a limb here sharing this info because lots of folks don't like this kind of detail.

I "love" details. The more, the better for me. This is why I do lots of experimentation with my own recurves.

It's nice to see "details" where someone owns both bows in question.

[cacciatore]

Originally posted by Night Wing:
 

Originally posted by Bowwild:
I'm going out on a limb here sharing this info because lots of folks don't like this kind of detail.

I "love" details. The more, the better for me. This is why I do lots of experimentation with my own recurves.

It's nice to see "details" where someone owns both bows in question. [/b]

My same feelings.Thanks for sharing Roy.

[cacciatore]

[Sixby]

That says a lot for the Tip. It says a lot more for the bow that cost 1600 less. What was that one?
God bless you all, Steve

[Bowwild]

#2 is a pretty Super bow, oK?  By my measuring strategy it is only 1.3% below the Tip and 5% higher than my Widow PCH.  Maybe I just got lucky?

[Plumber]

nice work bowwild. intresting stuff

[overbo]

Good stuff Bowwild,
Your testing is showing a 13fps lose w/ the 505gr arro out of the Tip?
Your VK shows a 10fps lose w/ the 505gr arro??

So you are telling us you paid less than $300 for that #2 bow?

[Longrifleman]

I know what you mean about the bank account...also have 2 Fedoras and a Whip!

[Bowwild]

Yep, less than $300 but it was a factory "blem" -- normal was $599.  

Yep those are the differences in FPS per arrow. I checked these measurements several times with many shots. I averaged 5-6 shots per bow per arrow. I "wanted" the Habu to be at the top but I don't begrudge the Silvertip that spot. Of course I draw a measley 26" and the Tip s a 58" bow with the Habu being a 62" bow. It is certainly possible I'm getting all the Tip will give a short draw person top efficiency?

[Sixby]

It may have something to do with the brace height too. If the Tip has less brace height it will have a longer power stroke. I do agree about the length of the bows though. Especially at that short of draw length. You really need a bow that is built specificaly for your draw length.
You are so right about the Habu grip, Its one of the best I have ever felt.
God bless you, steve

[L. E. Carroll]

Just guessing...

But did that "blem" come from a production line in WA State?       If so.... Yes they do make some incredible performing bows.  

I love my "old Black Glass/rosewood "Super D".

Gene

[Festivus]

I'm thinking Super Kodiak. Correct?

[Bowwild]

RC,
Probably 2,500 miles from there.

[Bowwild]

Festivus. You deciphered.