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atatarpm
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Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 08:54:00 AM »
Am I making to much out of wanting and paying for the straitest arrows I can get? I look for arrows that are .001 or straiter and when I find them they are about twice the cost of the arrows at .006 which are what I use to shoot stumps. My quest and problem seams to be that I don't see how you can put large broadheads on a arrow that is .006 out or that has a heavey side to the shaft and still make it fly true to a target over any distance. Maybe I'm just to picky. :confused:
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 09:07:00 AM »
yes,you are. IMHO
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 09:31:00 AM »
If you are shooting aluminum, after a few retreivals from the target you've lost that .001 straightness.
I also like using high quality arrows and normally go for .003 carbons. Even carbon can change in straightness, that's one of the tests carbon companies put their shafts through.
Frankly, I don't use wood arrows because I can't get them or keep them as straight as I want. Does it matter for bowhunting accuracy - -I doubt it -- lots of folks love em and hunt with nothing else.
I'm confident, at twice the distance of most recurve bowhunting shots, you'd never notice the difference between .006 and .001.
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Mike Vines
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Re: Straite Arrows
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Reply #3 on:
February 28, 2012, 09:42:00 AM »
Sounds like your over thinking it. Ever see a bamboo arrow? Once tuned, they fly like a brand new carbon.
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lpcjon2
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 09:47:00 AM »
Remember your a man holding the string with your fingers and no sights, so many imperfections with that, that .00 whatever isnt gonna matter.
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »
Remember too, that arrow is bending (becoming temporarily 'un-straight') a lot as the string rolls from your fingers and gets back in line with the the limbs it is attached to. Your arrow is "paradoxing" all the while as it moves through and past your bow.
For me, when I've tuned a field tip to the point it puts a near "bullet hole" in paper at 6', a properly aligned broadhead will group with my field tips at the bowhunting distances+ that I shoot.
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »
No wood arrow has ever been as straight as the worst carbon, and look how they shoot, provided the driver knows where he is going.
Eric
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 10:38:00 AM »
Here is .003.What do you think?
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Night Wing
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »
With both of my recurves, I shoot Easton X7 Eclipse 2212 aluminum target arrows for bowhunting. They are .001 in straightness.
I love how they fly with field points and broadheads. Since they are thin with a .012 wall thickness, I shoot them into a soft bag target when I'm practicing outside in my yard. They don't bend either when pulling them from a soft bag target. I think it's due to these arrows being 22/64" in diameter.
I think the larger the diameter compensates for a thin wall thickness in an aluminum arrow. This is just a personal observation from when I shot a compound bow shooting 2512 sized aluminum arrows out of it. The 2512s were hard to bend and I attribute that to them being 25/64" in diameter.
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Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37
atatarpm
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 11:29:00 AM »
Here again maybe putting to much into it but that's .096 over 32" that would be close to 3/16th's of an inch. Not trying to be picky just a thought.
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Re: Straite Arrows
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Reply #10 on:
February 28, 2012, 01:14:00 PM »
3/16" is .1875.
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Shakes.602
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 01:56:00 PM »
Personally,
YES
... Its Too Much Ado About Nothing. If
THAT
is what You think You Personally
NEED
to improve Your Shooting, you are going to chase that Phantom forever!!
There is Straight, then there is Really Straight, and then there is
Obscenely Impossible To Maintain Straight.
If the Arrow is in a Quiver with Other Arrows, you will lose .001 in Straightness just from Contact, Barometeric Pressure, Heat or Cold, Phases of the Moon..... Just My
2
Whole Cents!
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 02:59:00 PM »
Hey Richard! Don't beat yourself up over this... Get out there and shoot! Arrows are just a form of ammo... Made to be shot and broken. Hunting ranges are close, real close. Let a compound guy have sleepless nights over this, not you.
... mike ...
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atatarpm
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
JimB sorry about my math sir and I do thank you. Shakes I am always triing to inprove my shooting although my goal maybe impossible to get to for there is always the wind and yet I still strive for pin piont accurrecy. All I can really say is that I'm not as good as I am going to be.
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 06:28:00 PM »
Any arrow, no matter what material will only be as good as the archery shooting the bow. If you can not be exact in ever element of your shooting skills, don't use arrow straightness as the blame. Only you tell the arrow where to go and how to fly. Only you
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Re: Straite Arrows
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Reply #15 on:
February 28, 2012, 06:32:00 PM »
Wow. You must be one heck of shot to notice the effects of being 0.006 out of straightness.
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atatarpm
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Re: Straite Arrows
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February 28, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »
Stringstretcher I'm not blameing anything only looking to understand somethings. The only one I blame for a errand shot is me.
Jsweka don't know if I'm that good or not but maybe one day?
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Re: Straite Arrows
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Reply #17 on:
March 01, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »
wood arrows need to be within 5000. to fly strait according to paul jalon .he makes them for dave wallace world longbow champ .
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atatarpm
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Re: Straite Arrows
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March 01, 2012, 10:18:00 AM »
I was looking at some snake arrows in the Bowyer's Bible it would seam at this piont to me that if the nock end and the piont end are on the same plain then the shaft it self does not matter so much other then being extemely heavilly one sided. does that sound right?
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Re: Straite Arrows
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Reply #19 on:
March 01, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »
My arrows are pretty straight-cedar and doug fir. I use good stuff and don't always straighten, when I do I can eyeball 1/64 out and will correct that-usually, 1/64 is .0156.
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