3Rivers Archery



The Trad Gang Digital Market













Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters






LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS


Author Topic: Straite Arrows  (Read 501 times)

Offline atatarpm

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 441
Straite Arrows
« on: February 28, 2012, 08:54:00 AM »
Am I making to much out of wanting and paying for the straitest arrows I can get? I look for arrows that are .001 or straiter and when I find them they are about twice the cost of the arrows at .006 which are what I use to shoot stumps. My quest and problem seams to be that I don't see how you can put large broadheads on a arrow that is .006 out or that has a heavey side to the shaft and still make it fly true to a target over any distance. Maybe I'm just to picky.  :confused:    :dunno:
Atatarpm   "Traditional Archery is a mastery of one's self ; not of things."
71# Qarbon Nano
67# T2 Blacktail
85lbs Bama
100lbs Bama
60lbs Big D's Long Bow

Offline Prairie Drifter

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 1136
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 09:07:00 AM »
yes,you are. IMHO
Maddog Bows (16)
Rocky Mnt Recurves(2)
Sierra Blanca Bows (2)
Mike B.

Offline Bowwild

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 5433
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 09:31:00 AM »
If you are shooting aluminum, after a few retreivals from the target you've lost that .001 straightness.  

I also like using high quality arrows and normally go for .003 carbons. Even carbon can change in straightness, that's one of the tests carbon companies put their shafts through.

Frankly, I don't use wood arrows because I can't get them or keep them as straight as I want.  Does it matter for bowhunting accuracy - -I doubt it -- lots of folks love em and hunt with nothing else.

I'm confident, at twice the distance of most recurve bowhunting shots, you'd never notice the difference between .006 and .001.

Offline Mike Vines

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 4512
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 09:42:00 AM »
Sounds like your over thinking it.  Ever see a bamboo arrow?  Once tuned, they fly like a brand new carbon.
Professional Bowhunters Society Regular Member

U.S. ARMY Military Police

Michigan Longbow Association Life Member/Past President

Offline lpcjon2

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 7673
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 09:47:00 AM »
Remember your a man holding the string with your fingers and no sights, so many imperfections with that, that .00 whatever isnt gonna matter.
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don’t have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Offline Bowwild

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 5433
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »
Remember too, that arrow is bending (becoming temporarily 'un-straight') a lot as the string rolls from your fingers and gets back in line with the the limbs it is attached to. Your arrow is "paradoxing" all the while as it moves through and past your bow.

For me, when I've tuned a field tip to the point it puts a near "bullet hole" in paper at 6', a properly aligned broadhead will group with my field tips at the bowhunting distances+ that I shoot.

Offline WESTBROOK

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3385
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »
No wood arrow has ever been as straight as the worst carbon, and look how they shoot, provided the driver knows where he is going.

Eric

Offline JimB

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3778
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 10:38:00 AM »
Here is .003.What do you think?
 

Offline Night Wing

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 2944
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 11:25:00 AM »
With both of my recurves, I shoot Easton X7 Eclipse 2212 aluminum target arrows for bowhunting. They are .001 in straightness.

I love how they fly with field points and broadheads. Since they are thin with a .012 wall thickness, I shoot them into a soft bag target when I'm practicing outside in my yard. They don't bend either when pulling them from a soft bag target. I think it's due to these arrows being 22/64" in diameter.

I think the larger the diameter compensates for a thin wall thickness in an aluminum arrow. This is just a personal observation from when I shot a compound bow shooting 2512 sized aluminum arrows out of it. The 2512s were hard to bend and I attribute that to them being 25/64" in diameter.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

Offline atatarpm

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 441
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 11:29:00 AM »
Here again maybe putting to much into it but that's .096 over 32" that would be close to 3/16th's of an inch. Not trying to be picky just a thought.  :campfire:
Atatarpm   "Traditional Archery is a mastery of one's self ; not of things."
71# Qarbon Nano
67# T2 Blacktail
85lbs Bama
100lbs Bama
60lbs Big D's Long Bow

Offline JimB

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3778
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 01:14:00 PM »
3/16" is .1875.

Offline Shakes.602

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3643
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 01:56:00 PM »
Personally,  YES ... Its Too Much Ado About Nothing. If  THAT  is what You think You Personally  NEED  to improve Your Shooting, you are going to chase that Phantom forever!!
  There is Straight, then there is Really Straight, and then there is  Obscenely Impossible To Maintain Straight. If the Arrow is in a Quiver with Other Arrows, you will lose .001 in Straightness just from Contact, Barometeric Pressure, Heat or Cold, Phases of the Moon..... Just My  2  Whole Cents!  :thumbsup:
"Carpe Cedar" Seize the Arrow!
"Life doesn't get Simpler; it gets Shorter and Turns in Smaller Circles." Dean Torges
"Faith is to Prayer what the Feather is to the Arrow" Thomas Morrow
"Ah Think They Should Outlaw Them Thar Crossbows" A Hunting Pal

Offline mcgroundstalker

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 3304
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 02:59:00 PM »
Hey Richard! Don't beat yourself up over this... Get out there and shoot! Arrows are just a form of ammo... Made to be shot and broken. Hunting ranges are close, real close. Let a compound guy have sleepless nights over this, not you.   ;)  

... mike ...   :archer2:   ...
"Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength lies"

Offline atatarpm

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 441
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
JimB sorry about my math sir and I do thank you. Shakes I am always triing to inprove my shooting although my goal maybe impossible to get to for there is always the wind and yet I still strive for pin piont accurrecy. All I can really say is that I'm not as good as I am going to be.  :archer2:
Atatarpm   "Traditional Archery is a mastery of one's self ; not of things."
71# Qarbon Nano
67# T2 Blacktail
85lbs Bama
100lbs Bama
60lbs Big D's Long Bow

Offline stringstretcher

  • TGMM Member
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • ***
  • Posts: 2031
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 06:28:00 PM »
Any arrow, no matter what material will only be as good as the archery shooting the bow. If you can not be exact in ever element of your shooting skills, don't use arrow straightness as the blame.  Only you tell the arrow where to go and how to fly.  Only you
Genesis 27:3 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me [some] venison

TGMM Family Of The Bow

Offline jsweka

  • TG HALL OF FAME
  • Trad Bowhunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3571
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2012, 06:32:00 PM »
Wow.  You must be one heck of shot to notice the effects of being 0.006 out of straightness.
>>>---->TGMM<----<<<<

Offline atatarpm

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 441
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »
Stringstretcher I'm not blameing anything only looking to understand somethings. The only one I blame for a errand shot is me.
Jsweka don't know if I'm that good or not but maybe one day?  :smileystooges:
Atatarpm   "Traditional Archery is a mastery of one's self ; not of things."
71# Qarbon Nano
67# T2 Blacktail
85lbs Bama
100lbs Bama
60lbs Big D's Long Bow

Offline arrow flynn

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 647
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »
wood arrows need to be within  5000. to fly strait according to paul jalon .he makes them for dave wallace world longbow champ .
Arrow_Flynn

Offline atatarpm

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 441
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 10:18:00 AM »
I was looking at some snake arrows in the Bowyer's Bible it would seam at this piont to me that if the nock end and the piont end are on the same plain then the shaft it self does not matter so much other then being extemely heavilly one sided. does that sound right?   :campfire:
Atatarpm   "Traditional Archery is a mastery of one's self ; not of things."
71# Qarbon Nano
67# T2 Blacktail
85lbs Bama
100lbs Bama
60lbs Big D's Long Bow

Offline Bjorn

  • Trad Bowhunter
  • **
  • Posts: 8789
Re: Straite Arrows
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »
My arrows are pretty straight-cedar and doug fir. I use good stuff and don't always straighten, when I do I can eyeball 1/64 out and will  correct that-usually, 1/64 is .0156.

Users currently browsing this topic:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
 

Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement

Copyright 2003 thru 2024 ~ Trad Gang.com ©