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Author Topic: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?  (Read 672 times)

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2012, 10:22:00 AM »
Happy to hear all the positive feedback on Zircote.
I'm happy to be on Abe's list and seriously considering using it on my new Cari-bow Silverfox.
Now just to figure out what to put on the limbs...hmmm

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2012, 03:54:00 PM »
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How about this Olive Ash Burl?
 

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2012, 04:15:00 PM »
Gee, that Talltines looks vaguely familiar   :banghead:
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2012, 04:29:00 PM »
Fred,
  No You didn't...Well I should rephase that and say Yes you did...  :knothead:

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2012, 05:16:00 PM »
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2012, 05:19:00 PM »
Mike, Yep it's gonna be ziricote & bocote riser with myrtle limbs. Not done yet, hoping to hear from Bill soon to tell me that he's started on it.

Keefer, Some of us are slow learners.....  :biglaugh:
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2012, 06:48:00 PM »
Keith your thoughts on using olive ash is one I highly been thinking of. Also maybe some tiger stripe myrtle. Guess I'll have see what kind of stock Abe has.
Now I just have to hurry up and wait lol

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2012, 09:28:00 PM »
Have a Big River recurve with Zicote riser that still looks good after @11 years, John does good work.
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2012, 10:38:00 PM »
Mike , Dan recently made me a Classic Whip that is Zircote/Myrtlewood. Have only had the bow a couple of months but certainly no issues, the Zircotte is beautiful chocolate brown with tight, wavy black grain running through it. dan had made a few bows with Zircote risers back about the time I had him make my first Whip and I don't think he has had any again untill now, you know what a stickler he is about wood quality.

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2012, 01:14:00 PM »
i forgot another ziricote riser i have  without issues!

 
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2012, 01:33:00 PM »
Well pulled the trigger today. Black Widow PCHX zircote riser with light stained curly maple limbs.

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2012, 06:35:00 PM »
:thumbsup:  Cant wait to see that.

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2012, 12:44:00 AM »
Brother shoots an RER XR with all zicote riser.  Doubt that Kevin would have made the bow if he had any concerns.
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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2012, 09:34:00 AM »
The zircote you are seeing is the end result of dry wood used by experienced woodworkers.  From another perspective, zircote is a pain in the butt to dry and sell.  Zircote 8/4 almost exclusively has to be air dried, kiln drying will reduce your pile in half.  Air drying is a nasty job also, one must dry it slowly, using tyvek or some sort of barrier to slow the drying process.  We have thrown away more zircote than almost any other wood, macassar is right up there with it.  Zircote has hit a roadblock in Mexico also, because of the drug trafficing.  The sawmills are being threatened constantly.  It is almost a smuggling operation to get zircote from the ground to the port without some sort of dangerous encounter.  This translates into high pricing for the logs.  One fellow buyer of Zircote logs in St Louis Mo has quit pursuing logs because of the dangerous nature of aquiring them.  My 2cents.  Leftyfred

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2012, 02:37:00 PM »
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Originally posted by mooseman76:
Well pulled the trigger today. Black Widow PCHX zircote riser with light stained curly maple limbs.
WOW that is going to be one AWESOME looking bow. please post pics when you get it!!!!!

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2012, 07:00:00 PM »
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The zircote you are seeing is the end result of dry wood used by experienced woodworkers.  From another perspective, zircote is a pain in the butt to dry and sell.  Zircote 8/4 almost exclusively has to be air dried, kiln drying will reduce your pile in half.  Air drying is a nasty job also, one must dry it slowly, using tyvek or some sort of barrier to slow the drying process.  We have thrown away more zircote than almost any other wood, macassar is right up there with it.  Zircote has hit a roadblock in Mexico also, because of the drug trafficing.  The sawmills are being threatened constantly.  It is almost a smuggling operation to get zircote from the ground to the port without some sort of dangerous encounter.  This translates into high pricing for the logs.  One fellow buyer of Zircote logs in St Louis Mo has quit pursuing logs because of the dangerous nature of aquiring them.  My 2cents.  Leftyfred
leftyfred, so after this process is complete is there still much risk of the wood checking/cracking, or does this process take care of those issues?  Thanks for your response...Mike

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Re: Any issues with Zircote as riser wood?
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2012, 08:09:00 AM »
If the wood is dry, it's a done deal.  If there is any moisture content left in the wood when the bowyer does his thing, watch out!  What we encourage most to do is use kiln dried 4/4 material and laminate it to your needed finished dimension.  Too risky hoping that a 2" x 4" board is dry in the center.  Hope this helps, Mike

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