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Author Topic: 10 strand D97 string  (Read 282 times)

Offline xia_emperor

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10 strand D97 string
« on: March 22, 2012, 12:23:00 AM »
A guy asked me to make him a 10 strand. I never made one under 12. for a 40 lbs bow do you think that would be ok? I think it should be but I thought I would ask another string maker. thanks!!
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Offline Night Wing

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 12:43:00 AM »
For a 40# bow, a 10 strand bowstring will be okay.
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Offline grayfeather

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 12:43:00 AM »
I use a 6 strand on my 48# bow.I just chronographed it today.The 6 strand was 5 ft a second faster than my 12 strand,also tried it on a 50# was also 5ft a second faster.The 6 strand was very quiet performed just like the 12 strand, except for the speed.

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 01:04:00 AM »
10 strands are what I use on my 50#er. Never had a problem
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Offline Gordon martiniuk

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 01:10:00 AM »
Yes sir I build 8 strand d97 and shoot them up to 60 lbs ,, very safe with 10 strands
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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 04:36:00 AM »
do you flemish twist the D97 and is it safe for older bows

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 07:11:00 AM »
I'm shooting a 43lbs Herters recurve with a flemish 6 string I twisted up - D10 padded to 16. Shoots great - haven't chrono it but it really flings 10+ grains per lb of draw for a light bow....I'm shooting 8 strand for my 58lb pronghorn with excellent performance....

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 07:44:00 AM »
I'm using an 8 strand on a 60lb longbow.

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »
A 12 strand D97 is strong enough for upto a 100# bow,shot a 12 strand on my 83# DQ Longhunter.I use an 8 strand D97 on bows upto 60# myself.For a 40# bow you could go down to 6 strands for a skinny string.

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 10:57:00 AM »
10 strands will be fine.  I'd pad the loops to 16-18 with dacron (flemish).  I don't like to go below 10 strands of Dynaflight '97 (unless the draw weight is really light).

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 03:27:00 PM »
Just pad the loops and you should be good to go.
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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 04:44:00 PM »
It will be fine as long as you pad the loops up to about 16-18 strands.
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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »
I thought that padding the loops caused the strings to be slower.
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Offline KEG

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 09:32:00 PM »
My standard string was 9 strands padded with dacron to 15 for longbows and 18 for recurves. The padding is to protect the bow. I don't think the extra weight effects performance.

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 11:04:00 PM »
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 I thought that padding the loops caused the strings to be slower.
If at all, not enough to notice--less than a fps.  It adds a little weight over-all, but in a place that has the least affect and moves the least.  You'll affect the speed a lot more by adding weight at or near the center, where it has the most movement--like double-serving or extra silencers.

Even then, it won't normally have a big effect--the entire string doesn't weigh much.

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 11:15:00 PM »
I watched a video done by one stringer were he tested skinny string vs normal string. done on the same bow with the same arrow and found no difference in speed.  he even compared different string materials. it seems to me that people keep talking about speed but stating they did not even chronograph the arrows. I think the skinny string thing is just smoke and mirrors but I will make one for my customer.

  http://www.onestringer.com/index.php?page=mods/Video/gen_win&vidid=11
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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 11:20:00 PM »
for me the reason I'm sticking with a skinny vs a 15 strand d97, is the noise difference.  I like feel of the larger string but that skinny string is smoking quiet.

If I cut a strand the string is trashed so durability isnt an issue.  I beat the tarnation out of my 8 strander for 2 months last fall and had 0 problems.  


The one drawback imho is finding the right serving size to fit your nocks correctly.  Double serving can be a pain!!!   And I cant bring myself to go back to dental floss, it wears toooooo fast and too easily imho!

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 11:24:00 PM »
Well...yes and no.  Differences, if any, depend on a lot of variables.  Some bows will show a performance difference, some won't.  

I think most of the difference in noise is pitch rather than volume, but that's just my opinion--I haven't used equipment to measure it, and I haven't tried nearly every bow out there.  I've hunted with absolutely whisper quiet selfbows, but the deer can still hear the shot......and I know of guys killing deer with bows that sounded like a car door slamming at the shot.  Go figure.

I've only been tinkering with strings for 20 years or so, and I've never experienced a big difference in performance even when switching from a moderate dacron string to a "skinny" FF string...but that's just me.

Chad

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Re: 10 strand D97 string
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2012, 12:27:00 AM »
that is what I kind of figured. but If I want to make a bow quite I go with string silencers (I always like beaver, if I wanted a super fast bow I would go with a compound. hell part of doing trade is going a little slower.   :)  ),   Thanks Chad for your input.
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