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Offline Billy

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Maps
« on: July 31, 2007, 12:32:00 AM »
planning on attending the hunt in Indiana in October...I've gotten local maps from the county seat for home areas; but how do you guys go about gettin' maps for places you are traveling to and which types do you suggest are best??
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Offline Sawtooth

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Re: Maps
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 01:25:00 AM »
Depends on where you're going and what kind of hunting you're going to do.  I live and hunt in the Colorado Rockies.  I frequently use maps in conjunction with my compass and GPS.  I narrow down the area I want to go to, then I go to Maptech's website and order my topographic map.  I print them in 1:24,000 scale with a UTM overlay and lat/lon ticks.  Here's the website...

 http://www.mytopo.com/index.cfm?pid=maptech&CFID=1279366&CFTOKEN=97168805
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Offline wood slinger

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Re: Maps
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 01:32:00 AM »
I am lucky enough to live five minutes from a USGS office that carries all the 7.5 quad maps for my state. Also have a BLM office about the same distance away. I use a GPS from time to time, but I love using a map and compass! Here is a link to the USGS.

 http://topomaps.usgs.gov/

Offline Mike Orton

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Re: Maps
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 01:43:00 AM »
Billy,

If you want Topographic maps, you first need to obtain the State Grid map.  This is a map of an entire state that has each section of the state identified by map name.  Then, once you decide where you'd like to hunt, you order the map sheet by name.  I usually order all the surrounding map sheets also, since often I'll wander off the topo map sheet and rarely is the place I want to hunt in the center of a map sheet, usually on or near an edge of the sheet, thus the need for the adjoining sheet.  That means the one sheet I'm interested in plus the six adjoining sheets.  The individual sheets are about $8.00 each from the government.

You'll want to obtain 7 1/2 minute maps also konwn as 1 to 24,000 maps.  This will give you sufficient detail to understand where you're going and what it will look like once you get there.

There is a chain of stores called MapsUSA that offers their own brand of 7 1/2 minute maps on a plastic paper stock thats waterproof.  But the detail to the MapsUSA product is not as sharp as the US Geological Survey maps.  The address for USGS is as follows:

US Geological Survey
P.O. Box 25286
Federal Center
Denver, CO 80225
(888)  275-8747
 www.usgs.gov

If you pick up a USGS map you'll also want to get a product called Aquaseal, which is a liquid that will waterproof your map.  A handful of soggy shredded paper will do you no good when you're trying to navigate at night in a rainstorm.

As for compass, you will do no finer than a Cammenga compass.  It is what our military grew up on before everything went GPS.  

 http://www.cammenga.com/cammenga-products.php?category=1  

This is a quality navigation device made to be used in total darkness, powered by radio active Tritium and will give you genuine to the degree bearings in daylight or nighttime without any light aid.  I never leave camp without my compass.  The Cammenga is scaled 1 to 50,000, so you'll need to cut the Cammenga scale in half when using 1 to 24,000 scale.
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Offline BillyMarkwell

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Re: Maps
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 04:49:00 AM »
Topo maps are a great tool. Another great tool is the Google Earth site. After you've found the ridge you want to hunt with the topo, you can use Google earth to pick out the tree that you want to set up in. Good Luck

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Re: Maps
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 07:59:00 AM »
Road maps - yahoo.com; mapquest.com

Topo maps (electronic)  - Microsoft Terraserver.  Here's one for  Brownstown, Indiana  

Topo maps printed - USGS cheap but non-specific.  Or Terraserver custom maps.  They are great but cost about $20 each.

Aerials - nothing beats Google Earth for simplicity
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Re: Maps
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 08:03:00 AM »
I second Sawtooths suggestion on the Mytopo website. (Mytopo.com)  I usually order mine in the 24,000 scale - plenty of detail for me, although they do offer 15,000 as well.  The advantage they offer over maps that are sold by the quadrangle is that you can create your own map by dragging the cursur around the area you want to hunt.  Like Mike said, when you order predefined maps you usually end up needing most of the adjoining maps as well.  Not with Mytopo.  You can get only what you need all on one map.  And they are already waterproofed as well.  A bit pricy, but well worth it in my mind.
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Re: Maps
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 08:56:00 AM »
A third for Mytopo.  I ordered one a month or so ago and it was in my mail box in about 5 days.  The good thing is you can center the map however you want and they will print and ship it to you for about $20.
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Offline Mike Orton

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Re: Maps
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 09:27:00 AM »
Never too old to learn....I've been buying USGS maps for years and forced to purchase too many maps due to size/areas covered.  I just visited the Toppomaps.com site and am quite impressed w/ capabilities.  This old dog has learned a new trick....Thanks guys for the suggestion.

I hope the quality of the printing on these self designed maps are as good or better than the USGS maps.  Old eyes need help---forgot to mention, glasses are now standard equipment in my pack.  :saywhat:
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Re: Maps
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2007, 10:14:00 AM »
Good stuff.
  John, my brother/law and I should be around Knob Lake; noon Friday thru Sun.
 We're hopin to hunt a bit outta the way and maybe even canoe to a spot or two.
 I will be checking on the mytopo stuff it sounds tailor made...
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Re: Maps
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2007, 10:20:00 AM »
4th mytopo.
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Offline Rick McGowan

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Re: Maps
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2007, 05:46:00 PM »
WOW, I hope the map is as good as their service, I ordered my first custom map from mytopo and five hours later I got an email saying it was shipped!

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Re: Maps
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2007, 05:58:00 PM »
You can also view aerial photographs on mapquest.com, they seem to have much more close up information than google earth, so you might want to give them a try too!

Also,  www.terraserver-usa.com  for topos and aerials.

I assume this is for the southern Indiana bowhunt at the end of October? If so, I'll see you there  :D

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Re: Maps
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2007, 06:20:00 PM »
Rick, I don't think you'll be disappointed.  They are the best quality maps I have ever used.  Resolution is excellent, and the service is outstanding.  They really are a great example of a company using technology the right way.
A couple of things I forgot to mention - Mytopo offers both rolled and folded maps, and I think it defaults to rolled, so if you prefer folded be sure to check that box.  Also, there is a box that you can check to indicate "shaded relief", whcih puts shadows on the hillsides making the map a bit easier to read.
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Offline Rick McGowan

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Re: Maps
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2007, 04:27:00 PM »
Whip, I got the map today and it is awesome, just exactly what I wanted. I did get the 36"X48" as a camp may and rolled since they last longer. Now that I can see what I want I'll probably order some smaller folded ones for the backpack. I got the 15,000 scale, its got everything EXCEPT active elk wallows on it!

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Re: Maps
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2007, 04:47:00 PM »
I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who's hunting spots are always in the corner of a topo map!  How does the USGS know?!  Obviously the military issue lensatic compasses work, but I prefer any form of the Silva style compasses, especially those with a mirror for shooting transect lines.  The straight edge of the compass base is fantastic for drawing transect lines, etc.  Plus the mirror can be used for applying camo face paint!

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Re: Maps
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2007, 07:07:00 PM »
http://maps.live.com/

I think you guy's are gonna like this one.You can start in Rd map format and then zoom in to where ya wanna be switch over to areial or the other option I forget what it's called and see actual pic's of the area.Scary close actually LOL if they let us see this close I can only imagine what they can see
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Re: Maps
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2007, 12:01:00 AM »
For those of you considering MyTopo, I might add that they really stand behind their work.  I ordered a map that had contour lines that were pretty hard to read, and they bent over backwards getting it right.  They sent me another replacement map at no charge.  Great service and fast shipping.
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