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Author Topic: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added  (Read 657 times)

Offline awbowman

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »
Now there is a nonsense machine!
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Offline Ralphie

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2012, 01:56:00 PM »
You have been getting so many great things lately !  The Hill collection should be getting really great.

It's a nice gesture  ... your offer to the seller.

Ralph
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Offline Gil Verwey

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2012, 02:04:00 PM »
Ralphie I will post pictures of that bow when I get it.

I told him I would take the bow before he sent me pictures. He agreed to sell me the bow and then sent pictures later.

I wanted the bow for a collectable old Hill example. When I saw the pictures and heard the story behind the bow, I thought it could be valuable. I gave him the information I thought about the bow but he still wanted me to have it in case it can make it to the museum.

I am not in this for money and can't screw anybody. He still wants me to have it but if Craig tells me it was made by Howard and confirms that he can get a good dollar for the bow I will send it back or sell it for him. He may need the loot and nobody but the owners son should make that profit.

I am a firm believer in "What goes around comes around", so I have to do the right thing.  

I only got that bow because of your tip. Maybe before I send it back if it is worth money, he wouldn't mind if I sent it to you so you can shoot a Howard Hill made longbow.

Thanks again for the tip.
Gil
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Offline Ralphie

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2012, 02:27:00 PM »
I can always come to see out by you. No need to ship.
 If I were a collector, which I am not, I would have grabbed it. But I am happy to see that it has made it (hopefully soon!) into the hands of someone who treats it, "as a find",   .... with respect.
Everyone should be like that !
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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2012, 02:39:00 PM »
Gil, nice bow!

Offline Ric O'Shay

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2012, 03:21:00 PM »
Gil - That's stand up!    :thumbsup:
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Offline Gil Verwey

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2012, 04:35:00 PM »
Well I came back in from shooting all three of the Hills. I must have gotten bow strong because I could even shoot Standing Bear which is 80# @ 28. The last time I shot that bow I got a cyst in my bow arm wrist and tendonitis in my bow arm elbow. Today it wasn't bad at all and and I actually shot it pretty good.

Here is what I think of the 3 different bows.

The three bows are as follows:

John Schulz Tembo 58# @ 28 68"

Hill Tembo made by Jim Darling and reworked by John Schulz to Howard's specs 71# @ 28 66"  

Hill Wesley made by Craig Ekin 80# @ 28" 68"

All three bows were very smooth drawing with little hand shock.

I think Big Boar is the smoothest drawing because it does feel heavier than the 58# Tembo, but you wouldn't notice the weight unless you shot it side by side to another bow. I guess it may really be 71# but it so smooth you don't notice the weight.

I think the best performer pound for pound is the 58# Tembo. It seems to scream an arrow but that is hard to tell for sure, since the 80# Wesley screams an arrow but it is 80#. The 71# Tembo does not seem as fast as the other two, but it is so sweet to shoot.

You would be hard pressed to find much difference between them. They are all nice shooters.

I have also had Ron Maulding, Jack Harrison HHC, David Miller, Nate Steen and Sunset Hill longbows. They were nice too. I especially liked the Northern Mist bows in regard to how they shoot and perform. Ron Maulding I like because he made me a tonkin longbow back in the early 80s and I hunted that bow over 25 years. it is a good shooter too.

The main thing I think I found out shooting all these different Hill style bows is that in my opinion you don't have to look past Craig Ekin at Howard Hill Archery, if you want authentic Howard Hill longbow. He builds them as good as anyone today or in the past and better than most. just my opinion, but he builds them great and as good or better than any others I have shot.

Gil
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Offline Ric O'Shay

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2012, 07:39:00 PM »
Gil - I agree with your statement regarding Craig. He has built several bows for me in the past and all were great shooters. The one exception is the last one he built for me. It is a Tembo. It is not a great shooter....it's WICKEDLY AWESOME!

Danny
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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2012, 07:53:00 PM »
Gil congratulations on finding a great bow, with history. Very, very pleased she found a great home. Enjoy.
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Offline Ontario Longbow

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2012, 08:31:00 PM »
Great bow!!!
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Offline Gil Verwey

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2012, 08:44:00 PM »
Mike the riser length is the same. One thing different is there is a bamboo lamination between the riser and the three limb laminations. Another difference is the belly of the riser is rounded instead of coming to a sharp curve to the belly. The other two risers are longer because they have a limb lamination coming to the belly of the riser, so the fade outs are much longer for those two risers.
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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2012, 09:54:00 PM »
Wow Gil, what a treasure. The grip on that is interesting. It looks like a slight dish but wider at the top? How deep is it? While it would be meaningless in a certain sense, I would love to test that bow thru a chrono just to see how it compares. How would you compare it to the Shelton you had?
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Offline Gil Verwey

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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2012, 10:04:00 PM »
Hi Mike, how is Roger. I hope he is recovering nicely.

Mike they are the same. The rounded riser at the shelf makes it look like it is wider. I had to check it several times because I didn't notice it until you mentioned it.

After you mentioned it does look like it is and my eyes wouldn't believe my measurement.

Thanks
Gil
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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2012, 10:06:00 PM »
Congrats Gil and thanks for sharing!!!  Great bows!!!!!
Have a nice day!
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Re: Special Howard Hill Longbow! Pics added
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2012, 03:47:00 AM »
Gil what was the brace height they all liked? Thanks for all the info and pics.
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