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Author Topic: Elk Hunting on the move  (Read 420 times)

Offline wigeon

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Elk Hunting on the move
« on: July 15, 2012, 03:49:00 PM »
Heading back to hunt elk again this year.Going out with 3 guys but my plans are different this year.Last year we setup base camp and hunted from there walking many miles each day to different areas hunting and returning to camp.I have invested a lot of money and time to get my pack real light.My plan is to carry my pack while hunting and camp wherever I end up at end of night.If I get into elk I will back out of the area some to not disturb them,but don't want to waste time and energy hiking back and forth to base camp.Anyone that has done this any info would be appreciated .Thanks John

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 04:16:00 PM »
John. I have done what you are describing sort of. I have a spike camp about 5 miles and about 1,000 feet above the closest road. We hunt from there. Now we are only carrying camp in once. Empty what you don't need from your pack and go. Advantages I find I can hunt harder longer this way. Still have a pretty good camp and not disturb the elk in the drainage next door. We have a cold camp no fires........ I've had elk out the door of the tent  some years. Warning an elk is big.  if you bone the meet your looking at close to 200lbs that some one is going to have to pack out. 6 or 7 miles back you will need to know how to cool the meet and keep it cool all day. Unlise your buddy's are with you your looking at 3or 4  trips plus camp.last bull I shot was 7 miles from the truck I  was solo 3 trips in two days I was sore for about 3 weeks .good luck and remember it's not all about killing an elk take some time to  enjoy what mother nature has to offer.   :archer:

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 04:22:00 PM »
It works to get away from the crowds and spend more time hunting.  My partner and I have done that a few times.  However, we usually take a light tent and pack in a few miles, then hunt from that spike camp.  You should have a plan set up so your fellow hunters know generally where you're going and when to expect you back. Also, unless you've arranged to have someone pack out a critter with horses, you are somewhat limited as to how far from your base came you can go. Good luck.

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 05:31:00 PM »
I'm at church, I'll def jump in here later tonight...
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Offline wigeon

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 08:14:00 PM »
I do have someone to pack out meat with horses.I will definetly let my buddies know where I am heading.And I carry the SPOT with me in case of emergency

Offline Steve Chappell

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 08:26:00 PM »
I started hunting on my own, with three other trad bow friends in CO two seasons ago, this fall will be year three.  We have a base camp about 1.25 mile in from the trail head then day hunt from there. I like having a solid place to lad if the weather gets bad. We do bivy back in and up the Mt for one or two nights.  As Donacorn stated, ELk are big. I shot one back in probably 4 miles and it took two of us several hours to quarter it and then the next day all four of us went back for one load and I went in for the 5th. I have a Kifaru Timberline DT3 coming this month.  I am hopeful I will feel comfortable hunting with it on my back loaded with all the stuff needed to bivy for a couple nights.  I know with my older Kelty frame pack loaded there was no way I could hunt very well plus is was squeaky as can be. We pack in to our bivy site set up camp then hunt, so you loose the morning hunt to get in deeper.  I like the idea of hunting and camping where you land but I do not see that in my future.  Good luck if you do it that way...I know a lot of people do.  Hopefully you are in good shape if you are going to hunt this way and have spent a lot of time walking with a full pack and shooting so it seem somewhat second nature.
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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 10:20:00 AM »
Widgeon:
I plan to pack in about 5.5 miles and set up a "base camp". I'll make a few trips in from the trailhead with gear and food. From there I will bivy out on 2 or 3 day hunts. I plan to return to my camper (near the trailhead) as needed to resupply.

My son will be flying out to join me for 8-10 days of hunting in this fashion. Hopefully I will have found the elk by the time he gets there. Did something similar in 2010 with friends from this site. I use a GPS with loaded topo maps.

PM me if you have any other questions or concerns.

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 10:46:00 AM »
I have packed a spike camp in 4 to 5 miles with 2 weeks worth of gear, and then hunt out from there each day with a 1 1/2 sleeping bag, pad and a light tarp in my day pack. I will be able to stay out on the elk if I need too. It works quite well for a solo hunter. Mike

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 11:22:00 AM »
I bivy hunted last year for 11 straight days elk hunting in the back country. I am doing it again this year. In my opinion that is the way to go.

Next year I am doing it again solo.

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 04:06:00 PM »
I think you're on to something.  :-)

First off, your pack is perfect, I read around 30 lbs on the other thread, right?  Thats great! It takes some work and real introspection to get it down to and below that.  

I've done exactly what you describe for many years now.  To me, its the only way to go.  you save lots of energy, get more sleep and are always in the elk.  The issue I have found doing this, for me personally, is that I hunt very aggresively, all day every day.  As such, I hunt them in their bedding areas as well as feeding, etc... often killing bulls midday. Because of that, I bust elk out of their beds several times a year.  I hunt with/for 4-5 guys a year outside of myself.  I've had to find areas were elk are unpressured and where there are several herds with multiple satelite bulls within a few miles, else I would be wasting my time.  When It comes down to it, I only have a few areas that really fit this style of hunting well.  You have to have a place away from roads and trails where if you mess up one herd or things are quiet you can pop over a ridge and be in a different herd, or at least new elk etc...

In the end, most of the time I leave my truck prepared for several days, pack weighing about 25 lbs.  I get out to a spot a few miles away by daylight and hunt it hard all day.  If we don't get something, hunting all the drainages around, and things are still really hot in that area I will put up the hammock and go to bed.  however, sometimes we'll get to a spot and find that it s dead.  I'll give it a good run till about 2 pm, then if its stil nada I'll get out as quick as possible, back to the truck and up the road to another spot.  Climbing back out of the truck I'll hike till evening and hunt a spot in the evening, hopefully finding elk and sleeping there.  I'm always on the move this way, but rarely am I not having an opportunity daily.  For me to go to two of my honey holes in a single day and have them both be void of elk would be real weird.  

I'd recommend a SPOT for this, as has been suggested, or at least my wife would recommend one.  My GPS is invaluable for learning places WAY faster then you would without, and for letting you roam untethered.  

Be ready to bone the elk the moment you get him.  I pack Most of my elk out immediately, get it in a cooler and on ice.  I keep them on ice in a cooler for a week regardless.  

If you won't be able to pack it straight out for some reason, I'd carry a big food grade plastic bag that I got from a butcher, or you could use one of those wet-bags.  I put all the meat in the bag, seal it and sink the bag in a creek somewhere close, with the top of the plastic permanently out of the water so no water can get in on accident.  It makes a great cooler until you can get back to get it all out and also cools the meat very fast in any weather. Also, critters like bears, birds, lions, coyotes, humans etc... won't be able to find it when it's under water. I've never had a problem with pirhanna.  Don't leave it there for two long, under water... just cool it off and store it until the first chance you can get it out.  People always  comment that the meat is excellent.  

If you have a snowbank close that too would work of course.

Good luck!  and dont forget a camera, im finding that its worth its weight IMO
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Offline wigeon

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 04:30:00 PM »
Thanks for all the replies

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 11:01:00 PM »
What tents are you guys using on these hunts to keep the weight down.  I have three points for Wyoming and hope to do a solo hunt next September for three weeks.  I love hunting out of my pack.
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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 11:30:00 PM »
Sierra Designs Clip Tent 3lbs 6 oz. Sturdy and dry in bad weather/ 3 season. Room for me and gear. I like the protection from bugs/snakes too in warmer climate hunting.
Pack is coming in at 40lbs with 12 pounds of food for 7-8 days 4-5 miles in from road. Not as light as Wigeon, but I have been training up to 70 lbs on 2mile walks so far and feel good about 40#. Mow the lawn with push mower and 35 pound pack in the hot south. 2 mile runs each day plus weight training.  9000 feet is a special/different place.... hope it is enough at 57 years young for this flatlander.
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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 01:16:00 AM »
either a)super lightweight hammock and no tent
or b)kifaru para-tarp or paratipi  

I've been known to use tyvek
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Offline wigeon

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 05:06:00 AM »
I am using a paratarp and annex check them out on Kifaru site

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 07:09:00 AM »
I use Tyvek and a Outdoor Research Alpine bivy. I also use a Marmot Helium down sleeping bag. It is very light, packs to a small bundle and is very warm.

We have used Tyvek in high winds, hail and heavy downpours and it saved our trip. In the weather we encountered elk hunting if I only had a bivy my trip would have been over before it started.

Good luck.
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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 05:15:00 PM »
I use a Big Agnes Fly Creek II 2lb 10oz room for me and my gear and easy to setup. MontBell UL super spirell hugger 850 down 15 deg bag 2lb 2oz. And new this year a Thermarest Neo air X-Therm 21oz more insulated or Neo Air UL in the large 16oz size can't make up my mind I know what its like to have your air pad robbing your bodyheat from you not fun.     Widow

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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 06:52:00 PM »
I do a lot of this.  I use a floorless GoLite tipi if the weather could get bad or a tarp in nice weather with very light bivy backup for a bad storm with wind.  Black Diamond makes a couple of very light tents, and so do others, but my general feeling with a tent (without bugs) is that if I need more than a tipi or a tipi and stove I want a four season; I've had fine spray come right through a fly and netting roof in a bad enough storm.  Great advice on the Super Spiral, and if it's reasonable in September I carry a Marmot Hydrogen (REALLY light) with a Hill People Mountain Serape as complement.  I'm trying a Neo Air this year too, but is that thing ever noisy...

The biggest tricks are to be in shape and don't bring much gear.  You can spend a lot of coin to shave a pound or two off your gear, when it makes more sense to shave that off your gut.  And don't try to save too much weight in your pack itself, especially if you go way back.  Busting a pack or even just carrying a full load of meat in a pack not designed for weight isn't fun when you're in rough backcountry.
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Re: Elk Hunting on the move
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 07:13:00 PM »
Last time I used a Eureka solitaire bivy (one man, minimal) this year I'm using a Mountain Hardwear Drifter 3 in the pitch light option. A little over 2 lbs. but it is a 3 person tent. Actually good for 2 people and a bit of gear. The doors, one on each side, make it an excellent 2 man tent.

I'm REALLY looking forward to this year's hunt.

Good luck all.
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