Magnus Stinger 125 gr, flying much differently than field tips...tips???

[oxnam]

Have you tried any other heads just to see if there is an immediate improvement?  A lot of people get distracted by the sight of the blades in their sight window, is that a possibility?  I have shot Stingers for several years without any flight issues, but that is just my experience.  I do know Magnus spin tests them before sending them out so hopefully that isn't a problem.  Good luck.

[calgarychef]

Go and re-read what coil spring said.  All of my 50lb bows shoot 500 spined arrows well but with 100 grains or more added to the 125 grain heads.  

I hear so many folks say the arrows are flying well but hitting poorly when they add broadheads.  If that's the case the field tips were probably not flying well but doing a good job of fooling the shooter.  When you bareshaft keep moving back until you're at least 20 yards back but preferably 25-30 that's when the truth comes out.

[Gregg S]

I think the guys above hit on exactly what the problem is, too stiff. When bare shaft tuning I always go from way too heavy to way too light in head weight. That way you won't be fooled by a false reading. ( a too stiff shaft appearing to show weak because it is slapping off of the riser and flying tail left, or weak) Also, carbon arrows seem to show more change in spine depending on the length. You may be able to get away with the 125 gr. heads if you leave the arrow full length, it will weaken the shaft. As stated above by the other guys, you will probably need to get some heavier inserts to get them to fly.

[buckeye_hunter]

I am in your ballpark. I am using the 125 grain stingers with bleeders. I shoot 500 spine arrows and need 225 total grain up front. My arrows are  30 1/2 inches long.  At my 28 1/2 in draw, my bow is pulling about 51 pounds. Hope this info helps in some way.

God Bless,
Charlie

[BassBow]

Gentlemen,

Wow! Thanks for the outpouring of help.

I spent some time in the backyard with my 8 year old this morning with my broadheads, field points and bare shafts.

I was definitely nock low and and adjust the side plate to the left a bit.

Needless to say, much better flight. Much better. The sound, if it matters, is very similar to the field points. When my form is "on" all of the above seem to go to the same place.

It is not perfect, but definitely way better. I am going to continue to tinker. Maybe experiment with inserts as suggested.

Thank you for all of your help! I really appreciate it!!!!

BTW - My son really like to watch the bare shafts fly...he thought that was pretty cool. Then watching the field tips and broadheads fly with so much more stability really gave us an appreciation for those feathers....; ).

[JoeM]

  Good for you bud keep tinkering and you'll find that perfect combo.  I know the Dalaa have a lot of adjustments but play with the inserts, I was surprised when i kept uping my tip weight and how the groups kept getting better. I ended up with over 300 grains (BH & insert) up front when all done.  Look forward to some hero pics this fall.  Joe

[BassBow]

Thanks Joe! If there are pics to be shares...you'll be the first to see em'

[skychief]

Like Charlie Lamb and Phoenixarcher above, I find that Stingers are the easiest broadhead to tune for.

Keep tinkering!

Best regards, Skychief.

[kawika b]

Originally posted by Pheonixarcher:
 It's definately not the broadheads.

Unless you've shot every single Stinger out there... there is no way you can make that claim.

[Swamp Yankee]

Contrary to popular opinion, a 125 grain broadhead will not necessarily fly the same as a 125 grain field point.  The balance point of most broadheads is further forward than a field point and will tend to make the arrow a little weaker.  In most cases, it is possible to find a tuning point somewhere between the two spines (stronger field point and weaker broadhead) that will work; but make tuning to the broadhead the first priority to keep it from wind planing on you; something that isn't a problem with field points.  Yup, there's no getting around the tweaking; enjoy the journey!