Penetration Demonstration - G5 SGH vs Canadian Goose - Video

[oxnam]

I set up this example to illustrate the importance of selecting the proper tip when hunting birds like geese with a bow.  I used a G5 SGH for the test, but most blunts will perform similarly.

 

[Buranurra]

Wow, that was really an eye opener for me. Great video and very informative. Many thanks.

[wapitirod]

very cool, especially since I just made a post asking about this subject as I'm thinking of taking up wingshooting and I have a few G5's on hand.  Maybe I'll pick up a few more!

[Buranurra]

I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure the results of the test showed that the G5 SGH were not very effective unless you got a plumb breast shot, and even then they are unlikely to achieve a satisfactory result.

Tis a bummer as I have three, but was more intending them for bunnies.

[Scarne]

Originally posted by Buranurra:
I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure the results of the test showed that the G5 SGH were not very effective unless you got a plumb breast shot, and even then they are unlikely to achieve a satisfactory result.

You're not wrong...

[Steve O]

Yep, we tried a couple weeks ago.  Broadheads all the way.  Next time will be in a spot where flu flus are not necessary either...those are a HUGE handicap.

[Robhood23]

I gotta try that! Looks like it would be a blast!

[oxnam]

Originally posted by wapitirod:
very cool, especially since I just made a post asking about this subject as I'm thinking of taking up wingshooting and I have a few G5's on hand.  Maybe I'll pick up a few more!

If you interested in wingshooting and want to really shorten the learning curve, pick up our DVD at inflightarchery.com.  As for the G5,I do not recommend this head for use on geese.   The shot that hit the bird was square in the middle, hit just below the breast bone.  Below the breast bone, there is nothing but soft tissue like intestines, hence the decent penetration.  I should have shot another arrow higher into the breast for a better illustration.  The thick breast meat and bones would have dramatically reduced the arrows penentration.  A few years ago I had done a similar test and it only penetrated an inch or so into the breast.  That is not lethal at all.  Broadheads are highly recommended for these birds.

Steve O is right about the flu flu feathers effects.  They rob your arrow of much needed energy.  In wide open fields, I like to use a 3 fletch.  I get much better performance yet they do slow the arrow down enough to make recovery resonable and there is adequate fletching to make them easy to see from a distance.

[trick00]

Great illustration. I came to the same conclusion shooting pheasants. Feathers are hard to penetrate without a point. Just wondering what kind of target a sack of feathers would make? hmmmm.

[SheltonCreeker]

Good Stuff. I'll Keep my G5's for the bunnies and squirrels. Havent graduated to the wingshooting yet. Looks fun tho.

[oxnam]

Originally posted by SheltonCreeker:
Good Stuff. I'll Keep my G5's for the bunnies and squirrels. Havent graduated to the wingshooting yet. Looks fun tho.

G5 SGH can be a great head for wingshooting if matched to the right setup and bird.  Geese are  just too tough for a blunt.

[BowDiddle]

Cool video, and good advice.

I bought 6 of the G5 SGH's a while back.
Thought they would be awesome rabbit heads.

They were devastating to the rabbits, but broke barbs off of every head on each of their first shots.

Won't waste my money on them again.
I'll use the VPA SGT's. Best small game head available.

I use broadheads on everything except for really small critters. Just makes sense.

[Tim]

Nice Derrick!

[oxnam]

Originally posted by BowDiddle:
I'll use the VPA SGT's. Best small game head available.

I use broadheads on everything except for really small critters. Just makes sense.

Those Small Game Thumpers are tough heads that do a great job.  I like them also.

[wapitirod]

Originally posted by oxnam:
 

Originally posted by wapitirod:
very cool, especially since I just made a post asking about this subject as I'm thinking of taking up wingshooting and I have a few G5's on hand.  Maybe I'll pick up a few more!

If you interested in wingshooting and want to really shorten the learning curve, pick up our DVD at inflightarchery.com.  As for the G5,I do not recommend this head for use on geese.   The shot that hit the bird was square in the middle, hit just below the breast bone.  Below the breast bone, there is nothing but soft tissue like intestines, hence the decent penetration.  I should have shot another arrow higher into the breast for a better illustration.  The thick breast meat and bones would have dramatically reduced the arrows penentration.  A few years ago I had done a similar test and it only penetrated an inch or so into the breast.  That is not lethal at all.  Broadheads are highly recommended for these birds.

Steve O is right about the flu flu feathers effects.  They rob your arrow of much needed energy.  In wide open fields, I like to use a 3 fletch.  I get much better performance yet they do slow the arrow down enough to make recovery resonable and there is adequate fletching to make them easy to see from a distance. [/b]

gotcha, I didn't have the sound on while I was watching it but I had heard alot of guys say they like the arrow to stay in the bird so I figured that was the point of it.  I can definitely see how especially with a flu flu you wouldn't get the penetration needed.  I just fletched up my first dozen, even though I've bowhunted off and on for 30yrs I've never even shot a flu flu and I've never done any aerial shooting either.  I figured I'd get a couple aerial targets too so I can get some practice.  I will definitely look at your video.

Thanks,
Rod