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Offline Shawn Rackley

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string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« on: October 22, 2012, 06:18:00 PM »
Ok guys did a search couldnt find what im lookin for. Does anyone have unstrung pics of a 68" string follow howard hill bow. I would really like to see some pics of the whole unstrung bow. Or links to where i can see it. Thanks in advance

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »
The bow on the right is a 68" Hill Big Five string follow next to a 68" Northern Mist Shelton string follow on the left.  Hills have very slight string follow.

 

 
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 07:13:00 PM »
Thanks david thats what i was lookin for.  So almost strait then

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 08:18:00 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 08:21:00 PM »
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 09:28:00 PM »
It is a priceless resource for someone like me. So few trad shooter round here no way i could see one. Like was said ask and ye shall recieve.

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 03:18:00 AM »
Dave, mind giving a review on the two?  And if you can compare them not only to eachother but if possible to something similar or comparable straight or slightly reflexed?   I'm considering a SF bow....dont need anymore honestly but well who can really have too many  ;) .   no sense in wasting money though either.

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 05:57:00 AM »
So which one is better?
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2012, 03:01:00 PM »
"Better" is a very subjective evaluation.      :confused:      I own/have owned a lot of "Hill style" longbows, and I can honestly say that not once have I picked one up that just blew the rest out the door.  They are all more alike than different.  But what I can say, strictly from my own vantage point mind you, is that with the Hills the amount of string follow is not enough to matter or hardly notice.  The Northern Mist has a noticeable difference in feel on the draw and on the shot--more gentle, a bit easier on the draw up front due to the greater degree of deflex of the limb toward the shooter.  As for speed, I don't chrono my bows so can't specifically give any numbers but Steve says his NM Shelton only gives up around 4-5 fps compared to his standard reflex Classic.  To my eye I can't "see" that sort of difference.

I do not currently own any Hill SF bows but do own a Redman, Owl TD, and Wesley Special in the standard gentle reflex design.  I would happily still own a couple of fine SF Hills had the weight been a bit more comfortable for me--they were sweet bows too.  My Shelton may well be the most gentle, pleasant Hill style longbow I have owned and shot.  Again, my proviso--not by a lot!  I also love my NM Classic. (In case you haven't gathered by now, I love longbows--heck, I love bows).

I also own ShrewHill number 1.  Very slight string follow design, similar to the Hills.  Fine shooter, much like the Hill SF bows I have had.  I'm not sure it has enough SF to really matter either.

Workmanship:  I give the edge to Northern Mist by a little, Hills next and the ShrewHill third.  I have only seen one ShrewHill "in person"--mine. Again, not a great deal of difference in this area either.  The NMs just tend to show a bit more refinement to my eye.

Having said all this, I can tell you that all three are fine bows and a person would not make a mistake with any of these and I like all three makes about equally. I have become convinced over lots of years and lots of bows owned, seen, and shot that there is no "WOW" bow that I have picked up that just leaves the rest in the dust.  Too much competition and too many talented and clever bow makers for that.

IF I were planning to order another Hill style longbow, I would basically go with the one I could get the quickest (Hill--about 3 weeks on all my orders) simply because at my age (69) it isn't even a good plan to buy green bananas.      :D      I just am not going to get on a year to two year-long list at this point in my life.

Hope this helps.  I really do find it difficult to objectively rank my beloved longbows!  They get so darned jealous if they find out.      :bigsmyl:

I would love to see some feedback from others who have experience with some of these bows to see what your evaluaiton is, so let's have at it.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »
I have two SF Hills and a N.M. Classic. The Classic is a tad smoother than the Hills. Like you David best workmanship goes to N.M. by a slight margin. The one Hill and the N.M are rated at 50# and the speed feels about equal. The Hills for me has a little more stability. This may be due to the very skinny limb tips of the N.M. Also the Hill handle fits my big hands better and that helps with stability. The next bow I order will be a N.M. Shelton with a larger handle.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 03:58:00 PM »
I have never owned a string follow bow.  Are they more shootable?  Does it effect how the bow draws?

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 04:43:00 PM »
bornagain, I would suggest that you reread the first paragraph I wrote above. That explains it about as well as I am able. The degree of string follow affects the way the bow feels on the draw--not much SF=not much affect on the draw; more SF=more affect. Again, it isn't a big difference.  In fact, I believe careful tillering may have a bigger influence on the feel of the draw and the shot at release than just adding string follow.  In other words, a well tillered bow that does not have string follow may actually feel better than a string follow bow that is not well tillered so that the limbs recover at the same time to brace height.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 05:28:00 PM »
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bornagain, I would suggest that you reread the first paragraph I wrote above. That explains it about as well as I am able. The degree of string follow affects the way the bow feels on the draw--not much SF=not much affect on the draw; more SF=more affect. Again, it isn't a big difference.  In fact, I believe careful tillering may have a bigger influence on the feel of the draw and the shot at release than just adding string follow.  In other words, a well tillered bow that does not have string follow may actually feel better than a string follow bow that is not well tillered so that the limbs recover at the same time to brace height.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2012, 06:09:00 PM »
I picked up this beauty, it's a Shultz Old Favorite, Yew/Bamboo no glass.

 

 So it has "natural" string follow. At the same time I also picked up a Shrew Hill. Both bows are excellent Hill representations. The Shultz seems to excel with heavy arrows, and is very tolerant of spine. I had no problem using Wood, Aluminum and Carbon arrows to fly straight including large Tusker broadheads.
Is that a product of string follow bows, I don't know.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2012, 08:51:00 PM »
I have a sunset hill, nephew has a northern mist and have shot couple shrew Hills.  Me personally I like them in that order.  The string follow bow's to me seems to draw a little butter smoother than others.  they favor a low brace height, which is more forgiving in hunting situations, IMHO. Speed wise Like others I don't chrono, but I think the Hill's are little faster.  but I am not a speed freak, favor a quiet forgiving bow.  I will have to call craig and see about getting a SF Hill from him.

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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2012, 08:27:00 AM »
I had a string follow H.Hill built this year. Wesley special wth a blackwood riser,tips and center limb lam. It shoots great and seems very smooth to draw.I had it built in a lighter weight because I had just started shooting again and my bows were all to heavy for me.It only took me a couple weeks to be shooting my old bows good again.So I sold the "Blackwood" bow to buy another Hill Style bow up in the weight range I prefer.Craig does great work,the bow was flawless and delivered in just under 3 weeks!
 

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2012, 08:59:00 AM »
Gorgeous bow--hard to part with one like that but it doesn't take long to get another. I love that center lam of blackwood.
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Re: string follow howard hill craig ekin bow
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2012, 09:32:00 AM »
Yep,She's a looker.Went to a Tradgang member,I'm sure he'll be happy with it.

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