my headache Welshman Yew ELB re-visited

[Tajue17]

okay back to this bow,, question here is for you guys that shoot this bow.. for the life of me I cannot get a arrow to fly good from it.

I have shelfless selfbows, regular selfbows, longbows, recurves, and I have no problem finding an arrow to fly from them but ever since I bought this Welchman bow I could never get an arrow shaft to fly good from it and it allways ends up forgotten under my bed and I grab another bow..

these bows do have a shelf but the riser is thick around 1 1/4" and the arrow has to get around it.  this bow is 57@27 and I've tried everything from 45/50 to 65/70 spine arrows..

people have told me they need to be cut a few inches longer or very very stiff and cut short so the back of the bow is right at BOP on the arrow, only 23/64's or compressed 11/32.

is there a certain basic set-up for the ELB--> a starting point on finding the right shaft that you guys out there who shoot one use, do they like heavy points/light points-ect..

thanks for any opinions.

[Kelly]

My guess is you need to try lighter spined shafts. Remember, if your draw is only 27" then the effective spine of any shaft you try is 5# more so those 45-50's were really acting like 50-55#. My experience has been 10-20# under bow weight for spine from this type of bow.

Definitely go with 11/32 dia. but preferred would be 5/16". I would think 35-39 should work well, maybe 40-44. That is if using 125 grain points. If using 160 grain points(my preferred weight) then 40-44# spine should work.

[BamBooBender]

What Kelly said. Tapered shafts should help some too.

[aromakr]

Kelly's right on target, my experience has also been 15-20# under spine for that type of bow. I like a tapered shaft also, however at this point the spine needs adjusting first.
Bob

[George Tsoukalas]

Taj, you are welcome to bring it up and I'll help you tune it. Jawge

[Tajue17]

George if I ever get the chance to come I'll have you take a look and see what ya think..


lower spine though I didn't think of that with this much weight.. thank you for the posts.. T

[Ghost Dog]

Another factor is handle shape. I have three bows from Jerry; one from 2001 and two others from 2003 and 2004. the earlier bow has a round handle, which is not a problem for me, but Jerry has some customers who had a problem with the bow shifting in their hand because of the round shape, so he went to more of a Hill shaped grip. Does this apply to your bow? If it does just grip the bow with firmer hand.