Bareshaft or paper to tune?

[Prairie Drifter]

Originally posted by Rick Richard:
For those that say "bareshafting", are you testing by watching arrow in flight or as how the arrow ends up in the target?

Watching arrow flight. Grouping doesn't work for me, My arrows group together, but I can see them wobble in flight.

[BOWMARKS]

An excellent way to see flight of bare shafts without really looking at arrow " Lighted Nock" you will really see flight!!!

[Paul WA]

Paper for me...PR

[darin putman]

Bareshaft at 10-12 yds. once I get them sticking into foam target fairly straight (meaning slightly weak) I then shoot 3 fletched and 3 bareshafts for groups at around 20yds. if grouping close works for me !!!

[Possum Head]

http://www.acsbows.com/bareshaftplaning.html

[JamesKerr]

Originally posted by Bullfrog 1:
Before reading through OL's thing again. Doesn't he say it matters NOT how the Shafts fly but the point of impact is what matters?    Bill

That is correct Bill. I have been using this method of tuning for 6 years and Always end up with excellent arrow flight.

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by JamesKerr:
I bareshaft tune using O.L. Adcocks method of Bare shaft planing.   http://bowmaker.net/tuning.htm  

Always works for me too.

I paper tune at 6' and then at about 15'. As stated above it takes  pretty clean release to make it work.

Bisch

[widow sax]

Paper tune 9 to 10 feet.    WIDOW

[sawtoothscream]

I do both.

I start by bare shafting and watching wha tthe arrow does in flight. Once I get all the kick out of the arrow< iswitch to paper. I paper tune at 6' and do minor tweeks until I get a good tear.   A IBO world champ told me to tune this way and my arrows fly better then ever.

[onewhohasfun]

Troy Breeding has a little bit different way to bare shaft tune. Its on the Tuffhead website. Pretty good read. Just click on Tuffhead at top of this page.

[Flying Dutchman]

Bareshaft to me till 35 yards

[KSdan]

Bareshaft.  Impact AND how they fly work equally for me.  I typically can see the nock- left, right, up or down.  I also have someone look over my shoulder as second opinion.

Just remember this is TRAD.  While the techno/compound world increasingly has its influence on this aspect of archery AND I know some guys really like being technical, many of us did it for decades with wood shafts and decent fletching!  Don't make it harder than it need be.

[Easykeeper]

I shoot three bare shafts and at least three fletched together and compare the impact positions between the two.  I work to get them grouping together, but I've found the most forgiving setup has my bare shafts grouping slightly right (weak) and slightly low (nock high) at 25 yards or beyond (I'm right handed).  The bare and fletched groups overlap, but if you were to draw circles around them both and compare the center of each, the center of the bare shaft group would be slightly low right from the center of the fletched.   It takes a while, usually several sessions of tweaking.

If I try to watch the arrow in flight is sometimes messes up my follow through which in turn sometimes causes the shaft to plane a bit...in other words looking for the arrow can introduce and uncontrolled variable for me.  Besides, if the arrow is planning significantly it won't group with the fletched shafts anyway.