Are shorter recurves more prone to limb twist?

[Ulysseys]

I was demo'ing a 56" PSR from Black Widow and it shot great for me so I started to wonder why they no longer offered it in 54".  I called Widow and talked to Roger and he said that they had to stop making the 54" because people with longer draws were trying to shoot it and basically gripping it too tightly, causing torque and limb twist.  He did offer to send me a 54"er they had left in stock in my specs, at a decent discount (awesome customer service), with the option to buy it or send it back.  The 54"er shoots great for me as well but it just got me wondering if shorter recurves are prone to limb twist.  Any thoughts?

[Will Cocke 2]

I have noticed watching people draw there bows at any length without shooting an arrow and letting it down , it will cause torque.  You should never draw a bow with a closed hand around the grip if you are not going to shoot it.  With an open hand you are less likely to torgue the bow if just drawing it and not shooting.  I have a 54' PCH and Kb and have never had a problem with either.  If you like the bow get it and svae the extra cash for the next one LOL

[Panzer]

Recurves in general are prone to limb twist. One of the reasons I switched from Recurves to Longbows was because you don,t have to baby a Longbow like you do a Recurve. You could get a short R/D hybrid Longbow and have the best of both worlds.

[Ulysseys]

Yeah I'm keeping the 54" psr for sure, it's going to be a slammer of a treestand bow this year; it got me wondering about all the short bows out there, like the Kmag and stuff.  They must of seen quite a bit of limb twist to stop offering that particular length.

[Mike Vines]

Originally posted by Panzer:
You could get a short R/D hybrid Longbow and have the best of both worlds.

If someone finds anybody willing to make a 50" longbow (I know, I took the "long" out of it) please let me know.  A bow hinge would be awesome too.  Untill then, I will just continue my search.

[Ulysseys]

Panzer, like a shrew...I have a pl/psr combo right now, same weight; something I always wanted.

[Panzer]

Yep definately a Shrew. There are several good Bowyers who make short hybrid Longbows, but the important thing is having what you want. I have owned two Black Widows and they are hard to beat.

[Rifle River Scout]

I've been shooting all my life ( I'm 61 )and have preferrd short bows. I don't know what they're talking about. The only limb twist problem I ever had was on a 64" narrow limbed recurve,never on a short bow.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

Mike; Jack Kempf makes a 48" and 50" lil' grizzly longbow, people that have them Love them! I will try and post a pic of a 50"'er.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

Mike; Jack Kempf makes a 48" and 50" lil' grizzly longbow, people that have them Love them! I will try and post a pic of a 50"'er.

[jess stuart]

Maddog make a 51" and may make a 50" great bows at a great price.

[Hermon]

Originally posted by Mike Vines:
 

Originally posted by Panzer:
You could get a short R/D hybrid Longbow and have the best of both worlds.

If someone finds anybody willing to make a 50" longbow (I know, I took the "long" out of it) please let me know.  A bow hinge would be awesome too.  Untill then, I will just continue my search. [/b]

Mike Dunnaway at Wild Horse Creek Bows makes a 52" longbow.  Here is one that was on the classifieds

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=055217

[David Mitchell]

To my thinking, a longer limb would twist quicker than a short limb, but I have nothing to back that up--just my assumption shorter limbs would have more stability.

[maineac]

My initial thought was the same as David's.

[Friend]

Given the same amount of torque applied to the grip, the shorter limb will exhibit greater twist.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

What David said! Just think of it as a long or short stick.

[Friend]

Click on 'X'.

 

[jess stuart]

Another way of looking at it.  The shorter bow will generally have thinner limbs from back to belly than a same weight longer bow.  Thinner limbs will general twist easier.  Think of it like this which is easier to twist a 1"x8" board or a 2"x  4" board?  Both have the same amount of wood just in different places.  Keep in mind nothing is set in stone and limb desing amount of recurve the radius of the recurve all have a bearing as well.