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Author Topic: Another aluminum Question?  (Read 214 times)

Offline pamike

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Another aluminum Question?
« on: February 15, 2013, 10:36:00 PM »
Ok so i am convinced to try some alum's. i don't want to give up too much speed to switch from carbons.  I know people have different options on that but take that for why it is and lets get to next question.


Why shoot a 2018 when i could shoot a 2213 with same spine and 2.5 gpi lighter.  I know diameter is much bigger but why do i care?  What would be my next issue i run into if i shoot a "fat" arrow?

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Offline ArrowPlane

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 11:19:00 PM »
A larger diameter means the center of your arrow will be further from your sideplate, moving you further away from "center shot"

They do have the advantage of better chance to cut the scoring line, if you shoot target or 3D.

Offline Benjy

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 12:25:00 AM »
I shot 2213's for years with no problems. It's just a matter of your preference. Shoot what works.
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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 12:30:00 AM »
Shoot what works best. I like 2018's because they are a smaller dia. thicker walled shaft. A very tough arrow.

Offline DarrinG

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 01:39:00 AM »
Arrowplane is telling you right. I have a #50 recurve that will spit 2018's like a dream, but a 2213 will fishtail all the way to the target. How your shelf/riser is cut to center (or not), sideplate thickness, etc, has an effect on the arrow.
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Offline overbo

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 07:01:00 AM »
IMO,
Both arros are too fragile.If you stump shoot or push your shooting skills to where you are missing the target.You willbe buying dz after dz.
I don't have that long draw legnth like you Mike,but I do shoot bows up to 70+lbs.I've found that anything w/ a wall thickness less than .16 and a dia. less that .21,weren;t duriable enough for me.

Offline bigbadjon

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 02:34:00 PM »
I prefer the 2018 for its smaller diameter. As for durability no arrow will survive a glancing blow or solid hit regardless of material or thickness, so durability is of little concern in arrow choice. The reason I like the smaller diameter arrows is that they block less of the target and are easier to aim.
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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 03:06:00 PM »
For me, I'll take the 2018. I shoot a 57# Hill style long bow that is cut 3/16 before center, the 2018 gives me the weight I need in a weaker spine than the larger diameter shafts. A 29.5" 2018 with a 200g point weighs  600g, a 2213 setup the same weighs only 540g.

And a 2018 will take way more more beatin' than a 2213.

2018, 2020 and sometimes a 2117 are the only alum I shoot.

Eric

Offline ksbowman

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 05:50:00 PM »
I shoot 2213,2215 and 2216 depending upon what I'm hunting. These give me a wider variation in arrow weights. I've always wondered how much more drag the larger diameter shafts have when passing thru an animal. My bows mainly run from 57 to 64#@ 29 1/4" and I've not had penetration problems on bear, deer or antelope. Anybody else have any input on lighter bows and drag due to shaft size?
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Offline 6feathers

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 06:02:00 PM »
2018 has a much thicker wall and a smaller diameter.  They are pretty tough shafts.  The weight difference is really minor unless you are taking a lot of long shots.  My normal hunting shot in Michigan has averaged less than 20 yards over many years.  At that distance the weight is a non factor and I would opt for heavier shaft, I often shoot 2020 which has a thicker wall but same diameter.  I seem to have less tuning problems with 20xx than with a larger diameter shaft.

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 06:16:00 PM »
2018 will be much tougher. 2213 is a pretty fragile shaft for hunting and stumping

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Re: Another aluminum Question?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2013, 11:54:00 PM »
2013s dent real easy as good as you shoot you will destroy a dozen in nothing flat. I too would go with Overbo and Westbrooks advice.
So I'm plus 3. At your draw length I would suggest 20 18s xx78s if you can find them. I highly doubt you will find any difference in trajectory at any decent hunting range.

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