Mickey...Theo Lamb and I climbed a good sized hill trying to get him on some Deer last January and he almost beat me up it.... I decided it was time to knuckle down and get serious.... :D I've been doing 2 1/2 mile hikes each morning before work with a 30# pack, doing push ups and situps and practicing mind over platter.....I eat the same just less of it.... It worked for me.... Started out at 256# in february and have been at 220# for 1 1/2 months......Whip that rock had me looking real close too.... Terry