RR, I guess I am saying is you can get away with a lot more point weight and lighter spined arrows because carbon recover from paradox way quicker than other arrow materials. Let me put it this way, we can all agree that compounds shoot much harder(with more force)than Trad bows, correct? Than why do a lot of folks think they can shoot carbons designed and spined for compounds out of bows in the same poundage rated for compounds. Carbons are spined with 14" centers and woodies with 13" centers. Take a carbon and spine it like you would a wood arrow at 13"s you would be amazed what the deflection goes too. Basically you or a lot of other folks are shooting arrows that were designed to be shot from 35/55# compounds with 75-125 grain heads. I am not trying to argue and I have seen guys who get great flight with what I think are arrows way stiff, but most times those same guys can add 50-100 grains and get as good and in most cases better flight. In a lot of cases, not the Shrews case bows are cut well past center and people can get good flight out of a wide range of spines. I just really want to stress the point about remember even Traditional look arrows are still spined like all the rest of carbons and all carbons are spine rated for compound bows not us Trad bow guys. Have Fun!! Shawn