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Author Topic: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts  (Read 625 times)

Offline Sockrsblur

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2013, 08:58:00 PM »
Lots of different combinations out thers. Have to pick one and make some arrows! :)
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2013, 09:29:00 PM »
I typically use Bohning myself but I will have to agree with Shawn on the oil based stuff if you opt for a hardware product. Oil based sealers are superior in vibrancy and protection.
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2013, 09:37:00 AM »
I have tried other things in the past and always found one thing that would not work with something else. I always went back to the bohning products. I have always liked there stuff but now with the paint being $31 a quart and rustoleum being $9.75 a quart and so on I would really like to do my arrows with something else. I would think there is alot of other wood arrow guys out there who feel the same.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2013, 11:23:00 AM »
The stain (wish it was darker), the paint and the poly on these arrows are all water based.

 
 
 
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2013, 02:04:00 PM »
Good looking arrows. The pink should really show up nice. I guess I will have to try both ways and see what happens.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 05:36:00 PM »
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why do you say stay away from water based poly?  I use it with great results wipe it on with a rag and steel wool between coats and it doesn't make the cresting run like oil based.
X3. Granted, I'm a newbie at arrow making, but no stranger to working with custom solid wood furniture and cabinets. I used all water based with sharpies and had excellent results. I only use three of the first dozen arrows I made and have shot those three arrows hundreds of times and they look as good now as the day I made them. I was really pleased at how durable the finish was/is.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 03:54:00 PM »
A lot of info here. One more question, when using rust oleum  for dip cresting, does it have to be thinned?

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2013, 01:04:00 PM »
I use the cheap yellow can of minwax stain and wipe on poly for sealing, both from Walmart.  Rustileum spray can for crown (slow drying stuff coats better) and sharpies.  Use duco for nocks and fletch tape and had no issues yet.  One trip to Walmart got me everything I needed.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2013, 01:35:00 PM »
I've been using minwax stain, water based acrylic to crest/dip etc, then wipe on poly to seal. Works well. Not a ton of work.

Then I used supergule to fletch. Seems to work pretty well.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2013, 01:39:00 PM »
I use the cheap yellow can of minwax stain and wipe on poly for sealing, both from Walmart.  Rustileum spray can for crown (slow drying stuff coats better) and sharpies.  Use duco for nocks and fletch tape and had no issues yet.  One trip to Walmart got me everything I needed.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2013, 02:51:00 PM »
Can someone explain what you are doing with the sharpies.  Adding color rings?
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2013, 03:38:00 PM »
Yep color rings, aka. Cresting.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2013, 05:00:00 PM »
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dbond stay away from the water-based poly, stick with all the oil based stuff, paint, cresting and all. Shawn
Little bit of an outdated attitude here. I used to see this with old commercial painters that didn't want to accept new technology and practices.
Besides, for some areas it's going to get difficult to get oil-based products as VOC regulations change.

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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2013, 10:35:00 AM »
I wanted to take a minute and thank everyone that so patiently answered all my arrow making questions. I finished two dozen and am on to the third now. I'll post some picts in a min.

I chose to learn on 1/4" kid arrows from Kustom King they were about $26 for 100 shafts. I wanted to test my "recipe" before using more expensive shafts. I have 3 9-12yo kids that offered to shoot the arrows and reveal any building weaknesses  :)
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2013, 11:00:00 AM »


Set one, the orange, went to David for his 11th birthday a week ago. Set two, yellow, to his brother the same day.

I found these 33gr brass tips, from 50s in the classified section. For fun in each set I included 2 flu flu arrows and an arrow with a 223 brass shell weighing about 100gr... ha

 

 
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2013, 11:19:00 AM »
I've actually stained all 100 shafts that didn't break with straightening. Staining was actually really fun. I experimented a bit. The third set is for Jenna. I faded the stain to create a type of cresting.

 

She loves green so using food coloring and vinegar we dyed some of the natural turkey feathers green for a cock feather. We used kool-aid to make a teal blue. I was shocked how well this went. I did a search on powwow to find instructions.

 
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Re: wood arrow finish combo? W/ 1st set Picts
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2013, 11:33:00 AM »
I made a lot of silly little mistakes and realized how important many little things were that in my excitement I rushed through... ie. nocks don't fit perfectly on tapers that are not perfect! lol

The shafts were to light and bendable for me to crest them on my cresting machine. I was a little disappointed in that but there are more shafts in my future :) Thanks for looking
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