Got a new Bear Kodiak this week and have not been able to shoot it until today. Have today off but has been raining for the last 24 hours. Moved my target to where I could shoot from the back porch. Set the bow to a brace height of 7 1/2" and nock at 7/16. The bow shoot great no noise, no hand shock. Arrows hitting tail right by quite a bit. They are 62-67 spine ceder for my 52# whip. The Kodiak is a 50#er. I was going to spend the day tuning, but with the rain I just had to shoot the bow. Seemed like the arrows got a little more penetration than the whip. I really like this bow. Do you think 2117's would be to stiff. I got some in a trade. Maybe a heavy point. Any way this is my first update and I live the bow. Jack