Yes, elk. Sorry bout that. It does take a while...11 points got me in. I have hunted 62 a couple years in anticipation of this but still didn't spend a lot of time in 61. I hear you about the holiday, they have a big atv rally there every year, something like fat eddies rally they call it. Drives the wardens and rangers nuts try to keep the on the trails. Thank you all for your responces, I do appreciate it. Joe I may send a pm when I get my maps together, thank you for the offer.