Let's talk John Schulz

[two4hooking]

[MnFn]

Really enjoyed that article Gene. Thanks for commenting here.
Gary

[Warden609]

Great thread.

[David Mitchell]

Alan, I'm so glad you brought this thread up.

[RJonesRCRV]

Tom Parsons at KimSha Archery I think has the bow that Schulz used in the video "Hitting them like Howard Hill"

[DDawg]

Originally posted by Ben Maher:
Joe, if you get a chance read "Straight Shooting" by John Schulz ... its a great read .

Any idea where to find this? I've only looked on line, the only thing I found was a copy on **** for $125.00
I'll check to see of Barnes & Noble can order it.

[Kelly]

It has been out of print/sold out for many years. Frankly $125.00 is about the going rate on the resale market. Most won't even sell their copy because it can not be replaced.

[crazynate]

WOW thanks Mr. Wensel. John Schulz and yourself are considered legends in my eyes.

[KSdan]

I learned to originally shoot by studying "Hitting Em like Howard Hill" by Schulz (it is on YOUtube if interested).  I also have his book "Straight Shooting" personally signed to me- it is very special.

Intriguing however- I see a lot of current information out there (like on TG) with seminars and teaching that show shooting styles that Schulz would very clearly disagree with.  

Schulz says, "I believe the most important words that Howard said to my brother Dan and me, 'Boys, make up your mind, do you want to hunt or shoots targets. The two just don't go together.'"  

And again Schulz says, "Static style won't get it . . . it amuses me how guys extend the arm and draw the bow back.  That's tournament style.  And I personally don't believe tournament style fits in the woods. . . You may make some hits under ideal conditions. . .  those ideal conditions are few and far between. . . . most traditional bowhunters have lower scores on paper, but have a higher bowhunting success."

And lastly- lest we settle that trad bows were made for just 20 yd shots. Schulz says, "Howard use to say, 'If your form is right- you won't be off too far at 50 yds!'"

Interesting voice and wisdom from a previous generation.  May be worth considering. . .  

Dan in KS

"Swing, draw, anchor, deep, release." "When you reach anchor, you should be on target and ready for an immediate release."  Every so often I catch myself trying to other or more than that and my shooting shows it.  I tried one named Joe Frisk's idea shooting a big ole pie plate thirty times from short range, I started turning into a target shooter.  I lost my casual accuracy, spent a couple of days just shooting like I didn't care going smoothly into the follow through. With the simple John Schulz instructions in my head I shot much better and at more distance and at a smaller target, all back to that simple one thousand one 'swing draw anchor deep, at anchor on target and ready for that immediate release.  I am ready for dove season, left hand and right hand.  My advice no matter who wants to disagree is to take John Schulz's advice, don't add anything and don't take away anything, it works.

[Green]

One thing that gets very little mention from John's video is his discussion of the secondary anchor.  As we all know, proper alignment is a huge key to accuracy, and getting the web of the hand settled snuggly along the upturn in the jaw bone is a huge key to a properly aligned string arm. With this anchoring achieved, it is tremendously easy to let the string slip away, while "both hands do nothing".

[Mud_Slide_Slim]

This is such a great (and timely) thread. This summer, the wheels really came off as far as my shooting went.  It got so bad I was completely missing my bag targets at 13 yards.  After watching video of my shooting...it was rigid, forced, tight, my bow arm was all over the place upon release and the capper came when one day I came in the house after shooting and my wife commented that "it doesn't look like you're having fun out there."  She was right!

I was really struggling.  I went back and watched the John Schultz series about form.  Then I watched it again...and again.  I made myself stick to his principles and techniques.  I went from a 30" target form draw length to a tad over 28" now.  I am now experiencing the "casual accuracy" that pavan mentioned in his above post.  The best part is, besides hitting my target consistently, is I am actually having fun again.

I still have a ways to go, but I am committed to the ASL and the philosophy that goes along with it.  It really does work.

Bill-

[two4hooking]

Amen Mud_slide.  Sounds like you "get it" too.

Found out the same thing here....

The Hill form is simple but exacting. Tension is the surest path toward TP and frustration.

I did not have casual accuracy at first tonight, my release was crooked.  It took a lot of that boring repetitive target slamming and watching the follow through until it got natural.  I bet it took 150 plus arrows for it to come around until I could forget about it.