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Author Topic: how much is too much?  (Read 388 times)

Offline -snypershot317-

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how much is too much?
« on: July 26, 2013, 04:21:00 PM »
how much is too much point weight or is there such a thing? i have been shooting trad archery for a couple of years but have never really bothered tuning my equipment until i saw just how much it affects my accuracy and effective range...my current setup is a samick sage that's 55@28" shooting 30" ics bowhunter 400 with a 50gr brass point a 125 head with offset 4" feathers. during bare tuning i can tell that it is too stiff a spine. rather than buying new arrows i was thinking of adding point weight but how much is too much?
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 04:41:00 PM »
Your arrows will tell you that   :thumbsup:   if you go to heavy it will weaken the spine to much, not enough weight it will cause the arrow to be to  stiff...
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 05:51:00 PM »
If you tune an arrow well,it's hard to get too much weight EXCEPT when the overall arrow weight gets to where YOU don't like the trajectory of the arrow.Then you could think about switching to a different spined shaft.

I haven't shot the ICS before but other 400's for me,might need a 175-200 gr point.Yours are different in diameter so they may be different.Just experiment with point weight and if you get something that works,you can build a glue on broadhead with adapter that matches the weight,meaning if you can't find one exactly the weight of the field point.

Some are using heads way heavier than yours.Being well tuned is the most critical thing.

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 06:58:00 PM »
They make screw in field points up to 300 grains so it's easy to find out exactly what you need just by playing with point weight.  If you end up with an arrow heavier than you want go down in spine so you can use a lighter point.

The only disadvantage to a heavy arrow is long range trajectory in my opinion.

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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 07:05:00 PM »
My wife shoots an old set of arrows setup for one of my bows. We had to add 325gr. upfront but they fly great and she shoots great with them at hunting ranges.
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 07:33:00 PM »
too much point weight is when you like to take longer shots but the arrow just seems to always give up and dive down the very last second,,, or you just can't reach the far targets..

my opinion is point weight is not only for matching arrows, it also has to match your mind.. some folks need a lighter flatter flying arrow to be confident and overall just happy, they usually won't settle for heavy short range logs OR and arrow with too much hang time..  

then there's the other folks who want to be closer and like taking closer shots so the flight distance isn't a problem but they also want the heaviest arrow possible for other reasons.  

I usually like very heavy arrows from my faster bows and medium weight arrows form my softer shooting bows.
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 10:02:00 PM »
Try 325 grains up front and see how they fly. I am sure you need between 275 and 325 grains. Shawn
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 10:40:00 PM »
I have 350 grains up front on Axis 400's, out of a 60# NM Baraga. They fly like darts.
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 07:48:00 PM »
thank you all for the advice!!  :D  I found a tester kit from 3rivers so ill be buying really soon. As for me i try to target shoot in my general hunting conditions/distances on the archery trail near my house and with my range being limited (25 yards max) i try to stay within that so the heavier the better for me...hopefully  ;)
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Re: how much is too much?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 08:02:00 PM »
Don`t be surprised if you end up with a very heavy head and the best flying arrow you have ever seen.

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