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Author Topic: Elevated saftey question.  (Read 414 times)

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Elevated saftey question.
« on: August 26, 2013, 12:32:00 PM »
Nearly everyone seems to agree that wearing a safety harness is a good idea.  But what do they do to keep you from falling in the first place?

I've tried them and am much more comfortable with the old waist belt that let me lean out into it and make my shots.
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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 12:49:00 PM »
You can do the same with a harness, just adjust the strap that goes to the tree at the right height and it will allow you to lean out before going tight.  The difference is it "stops" you at the shoulders, not at the waist.  Much safer in my opinion.

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:59:00 PM »
A full body harness with a linesman belt will do the following:
Allow you to safely attached to the tree from the second you leave the ground until you get back to the ground.
Allow you to have both hands free when hanging stands, sticks, steps, etc.
Keep you upright in the event of a fall so that you can climb back up.
Prevents you from passing out from pressure you get with wait or chest harnesses.
Allows you much more movement in the stand to shoot different angles.

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 01:02:00 PM »
Necessarily they don't keep you from falling at all.  The difference is they are much safer if you were to fall.  You can still adjust the height of your strap on the tree and move around.  I have read about hunters that have died from suffocation when falling with a waist belt due to pressure on the diaphragm.
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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 01:18:00 PM »
I. . .  have come out of a tree multiple times while teaching the treestand safety portion of hunter safety.  We made a video so I wouldn't need to do so any more.

I can tell you what it feels like, but I can also say I rolled out. .  the stand didn't break, I didn't fall, and I had the strap adjusted as we preach, so that it is snug while I am seated.  I simulated falling asleep, then out.

I could use a loss of maybe 15 pounds but am otherwise in decent shape, better I think than very many of the men my age or younger.  

When I hit the end of my very short fall, the strap came up under my ribs and I cold barely breath. .  immediately.  I hung in a fairly face forward position and a top heavier person would easily have ended up face down.  

About half the time I was able to "save myself" by getting arranged against the tree (while gasping for breath and hanging sidewise) and using the steps to get back up.  The other half I had to be "saved".  

Of course we did this about six feet off the ground so my partner simply got under my legs and lifted me up.

I am certain that if I had fallen any other distance, as if the stand broke, or if the strap was adjusted loose, giving me slack, I would have broken ribs in the fall.

As a display, that same buddy them falls out the same way using a **** harness, full body, then he continues on with his speech, hanging there, and turns around and using the sticks climbs back into the stand.

I hate the full body harnesses, having started out in the early 70's using none, or a rope.  But you will NEVER see me in a treestand without one.  A full harness with attachment near the back of my neck.

Been there, done that (many times).  They are not perfect, they are getting better and better, but my continued life, health and family mean too much to me to take a chance.

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 02:55:00 PM »
Add the Petzl GriGri 2 self belaying devise to the back of your full body harness and you can adjust how much you want to hang out from your stand.  If you slip or the stand breaks, you can slowly descend to the base of your tree.  The safest of all possible options. Without a harness and a way to lower yourself safely to the ground after a fall, you run the risk of being a cripple or dying.  There is No Hunting experience worth That!  tippit


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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 03:06:00 PM »
Make sure you have a good big platform, dont go up when sleepy and be TS aware.
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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 03:51:00 PM »
I purchased a product called The Fall Guy. With this system, you're connected from the time you leave the ground, until you return back down. It's a great system. Here is the link.

 http://www.integratedsafety.us/store/

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 04:14:00 PM »
ChuckC: in your demo were you wearing only a safety belt?

After years of using a full body harness I have been trying a rock climbing harness which is NOT just a safety belt.  I really like it. I have done some simulated "falls" and have not had a problem with recovery since you end up facing the tree. Never have fallen upside down.  Plus there are no straps by my neck especially when turned shooting to my right. I still use a high quality safety line/prussic knot.

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 04:31:00 PM »
I was wearing the standard (at that time) 3 piece safety belt around my waist.

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Re: Elevated saftey question.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 06:07:00 PM »
Full body harness for sure, I use my linesman belt while putting up climbing sticks and stands, and have started useing and makeing my own life lines.  Fasten them to the tree above the stand and at the base of the tree.  It uses the prusic knot you fasten your teather to and slide up and down as you climb.  After done hanging the stand the only time you're not actually "hooked up" is after you're in the stand and switching from the life line to the safety strap on the tree. Be safe and be smart for your family if nothing else.
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