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Author Topic: Arrow Help/Questions  (Read 368 times)

Offline Son of Rooster

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Arrow Help/Questions
« on: August 28, 2013, 02:19:00 PM »
Hello Folks. Have been getting back into traditional archery the last couple years. I have a couple questions I need some help on. I am shooting a Predator Classic 52lbs @ 28". I can consistently hit a 8" circle at 15 out to 20 yards. I am shooting a carbon arrow 400 spine (Cabelas Stalker extreme 55/70)@ 8.4 grains per inch, that I added 100 grain of parachute cord to the inside as weight (trick I saw here). My total grain weight for the arrow is 625 grains. I like how quiet the bow is now. But, I was curious and shot through a chronograph and could only push 149 to 152fps. Is this, in your opinion too slow for deer hunting if I limit my shots to 20 yards?  Am I too heavy for the 52 lbs of pull.
 I did a FOC calculation and had 9.7 with a KE of 31.98
I look forward to some enlightenment. I thank you for your time.
Accuracy kills every time. Everything else is just numbers.
Mike Schuch

Martin Savanah 50lbs
Bear Montana 50lbs
Prairie Predator 45lbs

Offline Son of Rooster

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 02:22:00 PM »
I forgot to mention, 1 have a 50 grain brass insert with a 125 grain tip. I am shooting 5 1/2 banana fletchings.
Accuracy kills every time. Everything else is just numbers.
Mike Schuch

Martin Savanah 50lbs
Bear Montana 50lbs
Prairie Predator 45lbs

Offline gringol

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 02:29:00 PM »
Just go hunting, bro.  Get close, and stick it in the boiler room.

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
You should be shooting a .500 spine arrow out of that set-up unless you are shooting the .400 spine at full length. I would also would say, why would you want to shoot 12 gpp. of draw weight. Deer are thin skinned and 8-10gpp. is more than enough. As your saying goes, Accuracy kills everytime, everything else is just numbers. If you can shoot well with that set-up and the arrows are flying perfect it will do. I would think though if you were shooting around 9gpp. you would get 180 fps. or more out of that set-up and the flat trajectory may help you tighten up your groups. 8"s at 15 yards is not great and at 20 yards that can equal a miss if the deer just moves an inch. Shawn
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Offline SAVIOUR68

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 08:10:00 PM »
That bow shelf should be cut 3/16 past center and should like a stiffer shaft, your arrow length is needed to get ya in the ball park. 29.5-30 inch arrow with 50 grain insert w/225- 250gr point will get ya close and also 50-60grs lighter if you also remove the rope from inside the shafts.Good luck. OH AND RE-TUNE WITH BARESHAFTING OR PAPER TUNING.

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2013, 09:32:00 PM »
No, it is not too slow. If you are getting good accuracy, worry about form, broad head sharpness, and stand location. Forget about a damn chronograph. Just go hunting.
Sam

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2013, 10:00:00 PM »
I agree with Sam.  On the other hand, really no need for the 100 grains of parachute cord.

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2013, 10:35:00 PM »
your to light.
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Offline Son of Rooster

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Re: Arrow Help/Questions
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 08:36:00 PM »
I would like to thank you all for the varing advice. I should keep with what is working for now. I may lighten up a bit to gain just a bit of speed. I will be using a Magnus 125 grn two blade. And for clarification to Shawn, I should have put "center of a 8" circle" I can see why you might have thought "all over in an 8 inch circle"
Again fellas, I do appreciate the wisdom on here.
Accuracy kills every time. Everything else is just numbers.
Mike Schuch

Martin Savanah 50lbs
Bear Montana 50lbs
Prairie Predator 45lbs

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