Need some ideas on heavy shaft/arrow development

[Logan1202]

What about maple or hickory shafts? They could possibly even be tapered and still achieve the desired weight.

[DanielB89]

Bud B,
i have no experience with wood, but as far as carbon goes, you can make an arrows WHATEVER weight you want it to! I can literally make a 27gpi arrow(bareshaft: no insert, or point)if i wanted to.  Goldtip Heavy Hunter arrows are around 15gpi.  With Goldtip arrows you can buy weight tubes and can be 3,5, or 8 gpi. Plus you have 100 grain inserts and inserts weights that go up to 50 grains.  So if you wanted, you could have a 1000 grain arrow.  You also better be shooting a 1000 pound bow!  If you decide to do the goldtip route, i have some weight tubes i would gladly trade for anything you would offer.  

Daniel

[Bud B.]

I have some hickory shafts but have no clue the spine.

I need to break down and build the spine tester I have planned or just buy the Ace one.

I've got something in the works.

I very much appreciate the replies and support shown in achieving my quest.

Many thanks tradgang.

[Bill Carlsen]

Bud: If  you know the spine you need I'll check and see what I have. I have ash, birch, and maybe even some maple. Depends on the spine. I'll treat you right.

[snag]

You can get up into those mass weights with Surewood douglas fir. Do you know the point weight you want to shoot?

[Bud B.]

fletcher is helping me with a few test arrows.  


Many many thanks for all the help. You guys would not believe the helpful PMs I have gotten in addition to the responses here.

Again, many, many thanks!!!


Love the folks/users here on tradgang!!!!!  

[Danny Rowan]

sent you a pm.

If you want carbon, AD Trads are 11 gpi and the AD Hammerheads or even heavier.

[Russ Clagett]

Bud,

I have an 81 pound hill style and also draw 27 inches...here is what I did...

I built out the strike plate just a little with a piece of leather, then got some 80-85 surewoods.

I jumped up one spine group, then put on a 200 grain Ace broadhead....the finished arrows weigh just under 80 grains...probly right at 770 or so...

And its a readily available spine...in a super tuff shaft that never needs straightening, at least not in the short 3 years that I've been shooting them.

I also took some and soaked them in Danish oil in 3 inch pvc tubes for 5 days. They took 10 days to dry, hung up by clothes pins in my garage. They gained about 80 grains of weight. Those finished arrows weigh a good 850 grains and they hit like a 300 win mag......

Good luck!

[Bud B.]

PM replied. Thank you Danny.

[Bud B.]

Excellent tip Russ. Many thanks Sir!!

[Surewood Bob]

Bud B.,   Surewood Bob here to let you know what we have. Right
now since 11/32" dia. is about 99% of our business, that is what
we are stocking. We have a good supply of fir clear up to 105-110# spine. We are just low on 100-105#. With our wood, the mass weight increases proportionally with the spine. It is almost a
straight line on a graph. Higher spine equals higher mass weight
and in general higher quality of wood. Our 100# plus shafts are
some of the tightest grain, and most beautiful wood we have
acquired. Hope this helps!   Bob M.

[Bud B.]

Thank you Bob. Fletcher is working on three test arrows for me made of Doug Fir. If what we have come up with works, and I feel Rick's expertise will play well here, I'll be in touch  

(or Fletcher will be on my behalf    )

[Bud B.]

Fletcher came thru with some very nice test arrows. 69, 76, 79, 82 pounders. Grain weight at 680ish range.

   

On a whim I tried some 30.5" 2219s I had and put some 200 grain points with them. They come in at 700gr.

   

It's nice to have these kinds of problems    

I may drop 1.5" on the 2219s and jump to 225 gr points.

[b.glass]

I read an article about soaking hardwood shafts in Danish oil (TBM probably). They are then waterproofed and add some weight. I've done it with poplar shafts for kids arrows.

[frassettor]

I use a CX 350 cut to 30 1/2 BOP, 100 grain brass insert and a  300 gr tip, total arrow weight of 780

[JamesKerr]

I don't know about woods much at all, but for carbons it's hard to beat the arrow dynamics shafting you would want either the hammerhead or hammerhead heavy though I would think.

[Bud B.]

A doz Surewood Doug Fir shafts (500 plus grains each) are headed my way. Thanks Bob and Steve.


Gonna weigh them when they come in and likely soak'em  to boost weight and then the game is on to make some arras