How bad Is this?

[DanielB89]

A few weeks ago I went through the process of bare shaft paper tuning my arrows for my new black widow. I was just adjusting point weight to see how close I could get it. With 100 grain brass insert and 125 grain tip the arrows were very weak(nock kicking about 7 inches left). I took the 100 grain insert out and it was only about 1-2" to the left and slightly high(perfect from what I read).

Well all should be perfect but the arrow comes in right at 8gpp. (7.8 to be exact). Well tonight I said I want a heavier arrow, I put the 100 grain inserts back in and shot the arrows fletched with broadheads. I notice they are slightly weak, but  I'm wondering if this much really matter.

 

 

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Daniel

- this was shot at about 12ft with nock slightly weak

[DanielB89]

Here is another one.

Is this badly out of tune?

[tradhunter]

If you want heavy arrows I would say to go with a stiffer spine and then add weight up front....don't sell yourself short in tuning. Any bow can be tuned to shoot bullet holes through paper at ten feet...including my selfbow.
When hunting "close" don't cut it. I am not tryin to bash, you are on the right trail...but you will need stiffer arrows, or take bout an inch off the weak ones(recomend 1/2 inch at a time). Good luck bud.

[DanielB89]

So what would you recommend doing? Try the paper tuning from farther away?

 And it wasn't a bullet hole or I would not have been concerned. It shoots perfect for where I'm aiming, but I noticed it kicks out (as shown) at about 10 ft out. But then flies perfect.

[DanielB89]

anyone else?

[onewhohasfun]

If they are showing weak just build out your side plate a little at a time. Easy way to get em dialed in. Tell us what bow, weight, draw length, and arrows you are using.

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by onewhohasfun:
If they are showing weak just build out your side plate a little at a time. Easy way to get em dialed in......

Bingo! This is what I do and it's never failed me.

[xtrema312]

You need to list out way more info for some of use to get a feel for your setup.  Bow, its weight, draw length, arrow shaft spine and length for a start.

I bare shaft tune at distances of up to 25 yd starting about 10 and working out. I paper tune with a fletched arrow with field point from about 8-15 ft. and farther out after tune is real close just to check for wobble / over correction.  I have tried bare shaft paper tuning for fun, but you will get a lot larger rips that way so I don't think that is productive. Paper tuning a broadhead will put in cuts that could likely exaggerate the rip.

[DanielB89]

Set up:
Black Widow MAIII
53@28" I draw to 29

Arrow:
Ted Nugent 5575's cut to 30.5" with brass insert(100 grain) and 125 grain tip.

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by onewhohasfun:
If they are showing weak just build out your side plate a little at a time. Easy way to get em dialed in. Tell us what bow, weight, draw length, and arrows you are using.

how do you recommend building out the side plate?  I currently have velcro as my strike plate.

[onewhohasfun]

Just add velcro to the outside temporarily till you get dialed in.  Then compute your thickness and put something under one layer of velcro for your finished side plate. A little slice of surg. tubing, toothpick, or a slice off a wine bottle cork.