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Author Topic: Anybody else starting to forget?  (Read 958 times)

Offline Clint B.

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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2013, 10:12:00 PM »
Luckily, you only need to see one - if it's the right one and it gives you a good shot.  :)

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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2013, 02:56:00 PM »
Its best to try and achieve a few hunting areas. If your spot goes dead on you, hunting the other location is critical. The deer in your first area will immediately all charge to your first area knowing instinctively that you are not there and have a huge party. The next day, even in your mind, act as if you are hunting your new area, although you will be sneaking back to your original spot.
All the way to your first area, you must struggle to keep your mind thinking of your second area.
Once parked, you are okay to acknowledge you are in the first area. Too close for deer telepathy to pick up on your thoughts. (Its a distance thing)
Now you will get to choose from the dozens of deer that think you are "over there now"
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2013, 03:14:00 PM »
I usually see deer quite often while hunting. This year I have only had a few sightings of deer while a field. My hunting buddy on the other hand, has been having a banner year. We usually hunt near each other, so I just say it is a matter of being in the right place at the right time. This year, I just haven't been in the right place at the right time.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 03:15:00 PM »
I have hunted Missouri and New York this year. Here at home because of family stuff and the weather I have only been out 8 times. I have seen 18 deer and had 2 shots......I must say for Me it has been a banner year. I average seeing 4 deer a year and shots are few and far between. I took a gun out once and saw nothing, all the good days were with a bow in my hand. Many folks I have talked to say they have seen very few deer.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2013, 04:57:00 PM »
here in Kansas we had a bout of EHD and lost a lot of deer the record Kansas whitetail was killed by EHD (transmitted by a tiny female gnat!!) it went over 300 inches google it. awsum rack. been seeing deer all over and at least one a day..
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 06:39:00 PM »
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 08:05:00 PM »
Was hunting for 4 out of the last 5 days and saw nothing. And by "nothing" I mean track or sign.
Sure was cold too...

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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 08:57:00 PM »
wow I'm blown away by some of these posts,,, based on where a few of you are I'd think you would be tagged out by now. I always snickered at My home state but I see deer right up to the end of the year I think because they have nowhere to run too there's hunters in every piece of woods moving these deer around.  

wondering how you folks in West Virginia and Maryland are doing I know from experience there are way too many deer down there.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 09:36:00 PM »
1 have seen 1 deer this year...I don't know what the heck is going on. Normally I at least SEE them...maybe from afar..but I SEE them.

Not this year..kinda has me down.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2013, 07:11:00 AM »
Sounds like it has been a tough year every where. That seems odd to me. I truly believe all of the odd and unstable weather this fall is a big factor.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2013, 07:39:00 AM »
I travel a lot between Topeka and Lawrence Kansass.
Paved and country roads.
Nights and early morning.
I have been seeing nothing, live or roadkill.
Weird...

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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2013, 05:12:00 PM »
my normal mule deer spot produced only a total of 14 deer sightings in 3 days.  i normally see half that many bucks in a single day.
Last year we had rabbits everywhere.  yesterday in 6 inches of fresh powder from Saturday, I found a half dozen tracks, saw two.  never even braced up as I need breeding stock on that ranch.  Something is funny out this way too.
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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2013, 05:55:00 PM »
Are Whitetail Populations Destined to Decline?


Deer populations are down by about 2.8 million since 2008. Some biologists are alarmed by this, while others believe it’s natural and healthy for the overall herd.

By Frank Miniter (RSS)

December 05, 2012


12/5/2012

Some wildlife biologists worry the whitetail, the backbone of American hunting, is running tail-flagging for a crash. Doctor Grant Woods, a consulting wildlife biologist who assesses deer herds all over the country, has said, “I think we’re nearing a crisis mode. The best-case scenario is that deer populations drop 10 to 25 percent over the next couple years.”

The thing is, according to numbers crunched by the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA), whitetail populations in North America already have fallen by about 10 percent since 2008. In 2008 the QDMA estimated there were between 32-33 million whitetails; now the QDMA estimates there are closer to 30 million. If those estimates are accurate and projected forward, it’s conceivable the population could fall toward 20 million.  

 

Increasing predator populations, commodity prices, disease outbreaks and aging habitat in the Northeast and parts of the South are factors making some worry this might be the beginning of a precipitous check in what has been, in many areas, an over-populated herd. Most biologists, however, see this as a much more complex and localized issue.  

Brian Murphy, CEO of the QDMA and a wildlife biologist, doesn’t think the whitetail is headed for a crash. “We’re just entering a period many didn’t foresee,” he says. “Instead of the surging whitetail numbers of the 1990s and early 2000s, we’re seeing stable to slightly declining populations in many regions as populations fall in line with habitat.”

Murphy also points out that over the last few decades the quality-deer management concept has been experimented with in many states. In 2011, 22 states utilized some kind of an antler-point restriction; eight of them had statewide restrictions. Meanwhile, 10 states had “earn-a-buck” regulations in parts or all of their states.  

“Earn-a-buck regulations are highly effective at increasing antlerless harvests,” notes the QDMA’s Whitetail Report 2012 (QDMA.com), “but are widely unpopular among hunters.”  

Reducing herds also can be unpopular. Early in the 20th century America’s hunters footed the bill for much of the whitetail’s comeback and now are actively utilized to manage North America’s game. But the controversy over population goals aside, to some extent the lower overall whitetail population has been accomplished by design.

Beyond the sometimes-controversial measures taken by state game agencies to reduce herds, a few factors affect deer populations that wildlife managers aren’t completely sure how to factor in, and it’s these factors some biologists fear.

Disease Outbreaks
 Whitetail hunters drive the hunting industry. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, there are about 12 million deer hunters in the United States. The licenses they buy raise about $600 million annually for state wildlife agencies, and the gear they buy generates $12.4 billion for the American economy. So when a deer herd dies off, it’s not just hunters who worry. Die-offs occurred in many parts of the country during the summer of 2011. Outbreaks of hemorrhagic disease (HD) in whitetail herds took place from North Carolina to Montana. HD is the most significant viral disease that impacts whitetails annually. It is an infectious, blood-borne disease of deer and elk transmitted by biting midges or flies; it is caused by either of two closely related viruses, epizootic hemorrhagic disease (EHD) virus or bluetongue (BTV) virus. According to the Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study (SCWDS), in 2011 18 states reported suspected cases of HD. When HD occurs, massive die-offs can take place in segments of the overall population.

Predators on the Increase
 A recent five-year study on fawn survival on the Savannah River, led by Forest Service researcher Dr. John Kilgo, indicated that less than a quarter of whitetail fawns born in the spring live until autumn. The study used radio transmitters implanted in the female parts of adult does, which were pushed out at birth. When a signal indicated a birth occurred researchers headed to the site. They fitted live fawns with GPS collars, and otherwise determined cause of death. At the end of the study researchers concluded coyotes were the biggest factor in this 75 percent fawn mortality. The researchers’ conclusion: The Savannah River deer herd can sustain itself with this predation, but only if hunter opportunity is diminished.
 So is the Savannah River predation rate an anomaly?  

Overall, the average fawn survival rate declined significantly from 2000-2010. The QDMA says, according to state statistics, the rate (to 6 months) was .81 fawns per adult doe in 2000 but just .66 in 2010. Regionally, it varied. In Michigan just .39 fawns made it to 6 months whereas in Iowa 1.3 per doe lived until fall. In the Northeast, Maine had the highest fawn recruitment rate (.75), followed by Pennsylvania (.70).  

Aging Habitat
 A 2010 study on land-use changes across the whitetail’s range done by Mark A. Drummond of the U.S. Geological Survey indicated forestland in the Northeast decreased by an estimated 4.1 percent from 1973-2000, mostly due to urban development. Meanwhile, much of the forest cover across Appalachia has been aging due to massive reductions in acres logged by timber companies in New England and New York, and lawsuits against states that thin or clear-cut portions of forests. This is a big factor because while a young hardwood forest can produce 1,000 pounds or more of deer food per acre, a mature forest produces much less—some studies indicate as little as only 50-100 pounds per acre.  

“This, more than any other factor,” says Murphy, “is something we can change by lobbying our state agencies to manage public lands not just for trees, but also for wildlife.”

The Future of Deer Management
 This last point leads to a frightening diversion of opportunity. Historically, hunting on public land was comparable to that on private land, but over the last few decades this has been changing. Now the discrepancy in quality is widening as habitat generally ages on public land. As public lands become less diverse ecosystems, private landowners tend to do a better job improving habitat, so much so that, incredibly, from 2000-2009, hunters logged a record 4,423 whitetail bucks with the Boone & Crockett Club. These 4,423 bucks make up nearly 40 percent of all the whitetails in the club’s book.

Though herd management is a very regional issue and antler size is not necessarily a measure of a quality experience, it is certainly true that the next great movement in deer hunting needs to be centered on how game managers can improve the quality of the environments on public lands. If this doesn’t occur, deer hunting as an American pastime could decline substantially.

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Re: Anybody else starting to forget?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2013, 06:08:00 PM »
Declining deer herds spark debate

By Jeff DeLong, USA TODAY

RENO — Declining western deer herds have biologists, sportsman groups and environmentalists clashing over whether mountain lions and coyotes are largely to blame and should pay with their lives.

On one side are those who believe the number of deer predators should be reduced through targeted hunting programs. Others say factors such as the loss of natural habitat and wildfires are the issue.

It's an emotional debate, says Jim Heffelfinger, regional game specialist with the Arizona Game and Fish Department.

"The scenario plays out in just about every state, Heffelfinger says. "When these things flare up, they're white hot."

That's the case now in Nevada, where the issue of killing lions and coyotes that prey on deer has state Department of Wildlife officials at odds with a governor-appointed commission that oversees them.


Nevada's mule deer numbered about 106,000 in 2009, down from a high of 240,000 in 1988, according to state estimates. Mule deer, characterized by their large, mule-like ears, are common throughout the western United States.

"We've got a war going on," says Cecil Fredi, president of Hunter's Alert, one of two hunters groups that petitioned the Nevada Wildlife Commission to approve three predator-control projects last December. It did so against the advice of department Director Ken Mayer and his biologists, who said killing mountain lions and coyotes was not scientifically justified.

Officials with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Wildlife Services, which has the final say, refused to proceed. Doing so without full support of state wildlife officials would put them in an "untenable position," says Jeff Green, director of the western region for Wildlife Services.

State biologists say the deer's troubles are not due to predators but to continuing loss of habitat from development, wildfire and invading non-native grasses.

Tony Wasley, Nevada's mule deer specialist, says when lack of habitat is the problem, "all the predator control in the world won't result in any benefit."

Gerald Lent, chairman of the Nevada Wildlife Commission, says predators are an important part of Nevada's mule deer problems and addressing them is "long overdue."

The issue is also heating up in Arizona and Oregon. Arizona's mule deer number about 120,000, half the size of the herd in 1986, according to the Arizona Game and Fish Department.

Oregon's mule deer numbered 216,154 in 2009, down from 256,000 in 1990, according to the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Duane Dungannon, state coordinator of the Oregon Hunters Association, says that even though mountain lion hunting is allowed year-round, "it's not even putting a dent in the state's cougar population."

"It's no longer that uncommon to bump into a cougar when you're deer or elk hunting, but it's becoming more uncommon to run into a deer or elk," he says.

Brooks Fahy, executive director of the non-profit Predator Defense, based in Eugene, Ore., worries the state's cougar population is "crashing" because of year-round hunting.

DeLong reports for the Reno Gazette-Journal.

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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2013, 06:12:00 PM »
The Whitetail Depression

Deer hunters have never had it so good. But a number of leading indicators suggest whitetail numbers are heading toward a game-changing decline. Is it a correction? Or a crash?


Article by Andrew McKean

 http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2011/08/whitetail-recession

Dr. Grant Woods likes to assess the health of Deer Country from three different altitudes: what he calls the “satellite view,” a broad look at macroscopic trends across entire regions; the “helicopter view” that can evaluate conditions on a specific property; and the view from the ground—his “shoelace view”—where he can count animals and inventory forage.

Woods is a consulting wildlife biologist whose land-management work takes him around the nation. And any way he looks at it, from almost any region or perspective, he says America’s deer herd is in trouble.

“I think we’re nearing a crisis mode,” says Dr. Woods, who isn’t given to hyperbole either by profession or personality. “The best-case scenario is that deer populations drop 10 to 25 percent over the next couple years.”

He’s not alone. The director of a Southeastern state game-and-fish agency, who didn’t want us to use his name, notes that biologists in his state are seeing what he calls “pockets of poverty,” whole townships with few deer. A couple of counties away, though, whitetails are above long-term populations.

“I can’t draw conclusions about what’s driving either declines or increases,” he says. “But I’ve personally been telling hunters for 20 years that you can’t kill enough does. Now I’m starting to say maybe it’s time to put on the brakes.”

That downbeat assessment seems inconsistent with a generation of euphoric news about America’s favorite game animal—after all, we’re used to repeating the mantra that the nation’s greatest conservation accomplishment was the restoration of whitetails from the brink of extinction to a current population of more than 20 million. Managed hunting has increased deer populations, expanded hunting opportunity and given rise to an American original: the hunter/conservationist who pays for the opportunity to manage a public resource and who cherishes the very quarry he intends to kill.

But Woods claims a troubling combination of habitat loss, escalating numbers of predators, underfunded wildlife agencies and even hunters’ behavior and expectations are stressing America’s deer herd. And instead of gently declining to a sustainable level, Woods and others are suggesting whitetail populations are poised to experience a steep drop, somewhere between a significant correction and a catastrophic crash.

Before you go out and sell your ground blind and grunt tube, understand that deer are not in decline everywhere, and where they are hurting, some of the maladies are reversible.

But if the slide is as widespread and as steep as Woods predicts, then we could be headed toward a crisis that has the potential to reshape the culture and economy of conservation in America.

“If whitetail populations are off more than 10 percent for a couple of years, then I expect up to 50 percent of our hunters will stop hunting,” predicts Woods. “Sometime over the last generation, hunters became fickle. They’ll participate when opportunity is good, but give them a couple of poor years (of hunting) and they’ll stop buying licenses and gear. They’ll take up golfing instead.”

That sort of talk sends shivers through the hunting community. Whitetails drive the industry, not only in terms of numbers of participants (more than 11 million), but also with the hunting licenses that fund state wildlife agencies (nearly $600 million annually) and the gear we buy ($12.4 billion).

“The whitetail deer is the backbone of the hunting industry in America,” says John L. Morris, founder and owner of Bass Pro Shops. “And not just in the fall, prior to hunting season. In the last decade we’ve seen deer hunters become year-round customers as they develop land and intensively manage their property.”

AGING FORESTS

None of us like reductions in hunting opportunity, but isn’t it true that whitetail numbers have been at historic highs for over a decade? Like the inflated housing market or the “irrational exuberance” of the stock market, maybe we’ve been living in a whitetail bubble that was bound to burst.

Not so fast, says Kip Adams of the Quality Deer Management Association.

“The fact that we have fewer deer is by design,” he says. “We have been way over (population) objective in many places, and a number of states wanted to drop herd numbers by increasing doe harvest. But it’s also true that predators—wolves, coyotes, black bears, mountain lions, bobcats, even raccoons—caused some of these drops to be sharper than intended the last couple years.”

But more worrisome than predators is the maturation of America’s forests, says Adams.

“If I’m scared about a single trend, it’s how little game our forests can support,” he says. “A young hardwood forest can easily produce 1,000 pounds of available food per acre. A mature forest produces 50 to 100 pounds. We have the same number of acres covered in trees now that we did 50 years ago, but it can’t come close to carrying the same number of deer.”

And Adams says the discrepancy in quality between habitats on private versus public land is widening at an alarming pace.

“Historically, the private and public habitat was approximately the same. But today, the average private land is far higher in quality than the adjacent public land. You have private landowners actively managing their land for wildlife. But on public land, you have a forest that hasn’t been logged and habitat that hasn’t been managed. Most of our deer hunters hunt public land, and they’re starting to notice that quality gap. It’s going to get even wider.”

A GATHERING STORM?

Distilled to its essence, what Woods, Adams and other biologists are really seeking is more active deer management. Aggressive predator control. Better disease monitoring. More proactive habitat and population assessment.

Will those things counter what appears to be a slow decline in whitetail numbers?

“Probably not,” admits Woods, who thinks predator populations are poised to explode from Maine to Florida. “I think the only thing that’s going to control coyotes is that their densities will get so great that they get a devastating mange or distemper outbreak that will go through their populations like wildfire.”

Readily adaptable, whitetails may also alter their behavior to avoid predation. They may respond as wildebeests do in lion country, by synchronous breeding, an evolutionary strategy that swamps predators by ensuring that all the fawns are born at the same time. Or deer may seek habitats where predators are less effective.

Even with these adjustments, Woods thinks rough days are ahead for American whitetail hunters.

“We will never lose our deer herd,” he says. “They’re too adaptable. Whitetails are generalists able to make a living in a variety of places. But I do think we should be prepared to return to the days when you might have to drive 100 miles to find a place to hunt, or consider it a good day when you saw one or two deer, or even just a track.”

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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2013, 06:14:00 PM »
Part II...

Quantifying Risk

Are whitetails really in trouble? We assigned a risk index to a number of identified threats (10 is the most catastrophic and least solvable).

Maturing Forests

Symptom: Your family has hunted the same woodlot for 30 years, but you’re just not seeing the same number of deer you used to.
Problem: From the Northeast through the Ohio Valley, the nation’s forests are uniformly old, and even intact hardwoods habitats simply can’t provide the same amount of wildlife forage and cover that they could when they were younger and more diverse.
Solution: Develop wood-products economy that promotes managed timber harvest, encourage private landowners to thin woods as part of deer-friendly habitat management
Risk Index: 8

Predators

Symptom: You’re seeing whopper bucks, but for the last couple of years you haven’t seen younger bucks or any fawns.
Problem: Wolves in the Upper Midwest, mountain lions in the Midwest, black bears in the East, bobcats and coyotes everywhere. We haven’t had a predator mix this diverse or dense since the first settlers scattered along Daniel Boone’s Wilderness Trace. Commercial trapping is no longer an effective predator management tool.
Solution: Every deer hunter needs to become a predator hunter, and wildlife managers must acknowledge that predation can be a significant factor in deer mortality. States should liberalize regulations to allow year-round recreational pursuit of coyotes and raccoons.
Risk Index: 7

Baiting


Symptom: You see tons of deer when you’re scouting, but the minute the season opens, the deer disappear.
Problem: Michigan this year restored what some Wolverine State hunters think is a birthright: The ability to bait deer during hunting season. Georgia also legalized baiting. It’s legal in all or parts of 22 states. Baiting unnaturally concentrates deer, which can be a factor in transmission of disease like chronic wasting disease, EHD, Lyme disease and tuberculosis. It’s also a violation of fair-chase principles. Plus, a single bucket of corn dumped by your neighbor can negate all the deer-attracting habitat work you might have done on your property.
Solution: Abolish baiting
Risk Index: 3

Habitat Loss


Symptom: You don’t see any deer until farmers harvest their corn. Then deer are everywhere, including your front yard.
Problem: Expansion of rural subdivisions and urban fringe combined with a sharp increase in corn and soybean production. Carrying capacity—security cover and year-round food sources—for deer and other wildlife is declining at an alarming rate. Predators tend to thrive in fractured habitats.
Solution: Encourage the maintenance of wildlife cover, whether through subdivision planning or Farm Bill incentives.
Risk Index: 9

Intolerance


Symptom: My neighbor can’t understand why I love to hunt deer. She calls them “woods rats” and asked our homeowner’s association for permission to poison them.
Problem: Among non-hunters, whitetails have an image problem. Over the past two decades, their stature has declined from nobility to nuisance. They’re traffic hazards, petunia munchers, tick carriers, habituated pests. If tolerance for deer is eroding for the general public, it’s all but gone for farmers and residents of rural subdivisions, for whom deer have become vermin.
Solution: Promote use of regulated hunting—not sharpshooters or birth control—to manage nuisance numbers of deer
Risk Index: 9


Inadequate Population Monitoring


Symptom: Our local biologist says we have tons of deer, and he’s asked the commission to increase doe tags. But I’m scouting all the time and I don’t see any does or fawns.
Problem: How many deer do we really have? How many do hunters actually kill? State game agencies increasingly are relying on telephone or internet reporting to determine hunter harvest. And budget cuts have reduced the amount and intensity of population surveys. Without better surveys, how will we know a deer crash is occurring?
Solution: Actually, studies have found that telecheck harvest reporting is just as valid as mandatory game-check stations. The bigger problem is population monitoring. When EHD roared through the nation’s heartland, biologists didn’t know the full extent until they started getting lower-than-expected harvest reports in the fall. Instead of inadequate statewide surveys, make better use of intensive spot monitoring.
Risk Index: 3

Hunters’ Unrealistic Expectations


Symptom: Last year I saw an average of 75 deer a day from my tree stand. This year I’ve only seen about 30 a day. We’ve gotta cut back on doe tags.
Problem: We have become so accustomed to getting “our deer” that it feels like a seasonal entitlement, so a year or two of decline can seem like the End Time. We forget all the seasons our father got excited when he saw a single doe, and all the years he tucked his unfilled tag in his gun cabinet.
Solution: Game managers must reinforce the forgotten notion that whitetail populations are dynamic, and that too many deer are just as problematic as not enough. We need to be reminded that one outcome of killing lots of deer this year is that there will be fewer next year.
Risk Index: 2


Leadership Vacuum

Symptom: I go to fundraising banquets for turkeys and quail, but I’m a deer hunter. I’d like to join a group that really fights for whitetail habitat and sticks up for hunters.
Problem: Pheasants have Pheasants Forever. Elk have the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. Turkeys have the NWTF. Even ruffed grouse have their own conservation alliance. The two leading whitetail groups, Quality Deer Management Association and Whitetails Unlimited, are smart and scrappy, but they’re also small and struggling.
Solution: Creation of a truly national whitetail conservation organization, one that is confident enough to address the wedge issues that divide deer hunters (baiting, high-fence operations, escalating use of technology) while advocating for habitat conservation, access, responsive management and research.
Risk Index: 4

Harvest Trends

Whitetail harvest trends are both highly regional and highly “guesstimable.” Last year, for example, harvest dropped in the coal country of West Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio, but Great Lakes hunters enjoyed a good year. Missouri hunters shot 10 percent fewer whitetails than the year before, but Nebraska was up 11 percent. Pennsylvania posted a 2 percent increase. New Hampshire’s harvest was off more than 6 percent, but nearby New York’s was up more than 3 percent. Instead of providing clarity, harvest data—typically based on a statistically valid sample—frustrate attempts to draw conclusions about the health of America’s deer herd on a national scale. If a state isn’t colored, harvest data was unavailable.

Row-Crop Conversion

Whitetails crave corn, right? A map of trophy buck zones matches neatly with America’s Corn Belt. Beans, too, have been good for deer. The replacement of cotton and tobacco with soybeans has allowed whitetail populations to skyrocket in Kentucky, Virginia and Arkansas.

But the world’s insatiable appetite for American corn and soybeans is troubling news for deer. Those marginal habitats—upland pastures and corner woodlots—that provide critical cover for whitetails are being plowed up and planted to small grains at a dizzying pace. These industrial-scale monocultures may provide food during the crop season, but once grains are harvested, forage and cover disappear, making whitetails especially vulnerable during lean winters.

“Those places that didn’t make sense to farm with $5 beans and $3 corn are being plowed up with $14 beans and $10 corn,” says biologist Dr. Grant Woods. “We cannot farm fencerow to fencerow and have adequate cover for wildlife.”


Death by Fangs

A 5-year study on fawn survival on the Savannah River Site suggests that less than a quarter of whitetail fawns born in the spring live until autumn. Coyotes kill the vast majority of the three-quarters that die, often within hours of their birth.

The study, led by Forest Service researcher Dr. John Kilgo, is as fascinating as it is gory. Radio transmitters implanted in the vaginas of adult does are pushed out at birth and emit a signal. Researchers race to the site, often reaching it within a few hours of birth, and then search for the fawn. If it’s alive, they fit it with a GPS collar. If it’s dead, they determine the cause of death.

“When we have a carcass, we’re looking first if it was a predator responsible, and if so, then was it a coyote or a bobcat,” says Kilgo. “This is such a remote area we don’t have domestic dogs to worry about. There are characteristics of how predators cache their prey. A bobcat often scratches leaf litter over the fawn. Coyotes often dig a hole to bury the remains. Then, so we left nothing to doubt, we evaluate the bite wounds for cause of death, then swab the wounds in an effort to collect predators’ saliva.”

Nearly 80 percent of the predation was by coyotes. The researchers’ conclusions is that the Savannah River deer herd can sustain itself with 75 percent predation, but only if hunter opportunity is diminished.

“Any prey base can only take so much mortality before it starts to decline,” says Kilgo. “Here, we had a double whammy (of coyotes and human hunters) and the only variable we could control was to reduce some of the hunter harvest.”

Is the Savannah River predation aberrant, or can we expect to lose the same percentage of fawns elsewhere in the Southeast? And if so, will states start to reduce hunter opportunity to balance prey with predation?

“Based on a number of studies that are being conducted right now, it appears that the level of predation we detected is being seen elsewhere,” says Kilgo. “It’s definitely a new dynamic. We didn’t have coyotes in South Carolina 20-25 years ago. Not only are they established now, but they are abundant.”

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2013, 07:51:00 PM »
As a side anecdote, my "other" hobby is habitat improvement on my family property. I do it year round and in all honesty, I derive more satisfaction from doing that habitat work than even the "hunt" itself or shooting my bows. It's fun and rewarding knowing that you're not just helping wildlife, but helping your own hunting, your kids hunting and those neighbors in close enough in deer range proximity to the improvements.

I started doing intense habitat work in the 1990's, when the TB outbreak hit the Michigan deer herd and baiting was banned wherever there was an outbreak. Back then, we did as many did and baited heavily. But back then our habitat was very poor, mature forest with lots of non-preferred tree species, almost no understory and our deer herd was dangerously high. We had mostly tiny racked yearling bucks that weighed like 90lbs dressed and frequent winter kill that was substantial.

When a neighboring county had a TB outbreak in the later 1990's, I told my dad that if baiting ever got banned in our county due to TB, that we'd never see any deer because our deer habitat was so poor.

Long story short, I started a near total habitat transformation on 160 acres. I had 3 rounds of commercial timbering done about 5 years apart and I spend about one free day a week playing with chainsaws and planting tree's and shaping the landscape for all wildlife. I've been doing it for 15 years. It's what I like to do with my free time. I don't golf, I don't bowl, I don't watch sports other than the occasional Michigan State football or basketball game. I hunt, shoot bows and do habitat improvements.

While I understand most people can't or won't do what I did/do, I just wanted to inform everyone that habitat improvements can really make a huge difference. Night and day, to be frank. And I'm not talking about large food plots, I'm talking perhaps 1 or 2 winter wheat plots about 1/3 acre in size, if I even bother to plant them. No, what I'm talking about high stem density native browse and thick screening and bedding cover.

The end result speaks for itself. My property is in the northern lower peninsula of Michigan. You'll find that pessimism among deer hunters is pervasive in my hunting area and has been for nearly 20 years. But while others in the area claim they may go nearly a whole season without seeing a deer, I saw and passed up 6 different bucks on opening day of firearms season, alone. In addition, the grouse and bear numbers on the property have never been so good in my lifetime. Rabbits are being seen again. I now also frequently see bobcats, which I never saw one for 20 years, when the property was old growth forest. The turkey have had a rough patch following a couple tough Winters and Spring nesting seasons, but from reports, our turkey situation is better than nearly everyone else's.

It's to the point now where I can drive by a forested property and basically tell whether that property is going to have decent deer hunting or not, simply due to the age of the woods themselves.

As the links above note that public land has long term problems due to an aging forest, there still is cutting happening on public land, albeit on a smaller scale. The key is to find that public land that's being cut.

So, if one is a public land hunter and your hunting has really declined, you're left with two choices. You can find new stomping grounds that have been recently disturbed, no matter how good the memories are of the old public land you hunt or you can stay and hunt the same old public land forest that's a kin to a sinking ship that's slowly but continually taking on water.

On a nearly public parcel, there was a large deer camp that had been camping there since I was a kid. There was always 3-4 trailers, a big wall tent and 15-20 guys. I always stopped and chatted with them over a beer, the night firearms season. Even though we're all bow hunters here on Tradgang, the evening before the Michigan firearms opener is like a deer hunters Christmas Eve. It's a big deal. Anyhow, that fella mentioned that the deer hunting there had become so poor that they likely were going to wrap up their 40 year history at that campsite and public land.

He noted how, 40 years ago, that the row pines were so thick that you had to back thru them in places and often have to crawl to get into places and that you couldn't see 50 yards in any direction. Back then, the hunting was great and the habitat was young forest and dense cover. But now, the giant rows of soldierly pines planted in the 1950's have virtually no understory, not even ferns in the Summer. You can see 150 yards up the pine rows and the whole area is basically a deerless desert. About all that lives there is red squirrels.

When I asked him why he kept coming back, he shrugged and said "this is where we always came". That was 2 years ago. They stopped coming up after that last season.

I did run into a member of that party in the Spring turkey season. He informed me that they decided to lease some land much closer to home and with far better deer hunting. He said the hunting was so much better in the southern lower peninsula and their drive was 30 minutes vs. 2 hours that they'd never be back to deer hunt. I can't say I blame them, at least on that public parcel, in it's present state.

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