I shoot at soy bean seed crate bags, stuffed with plastic from silage piles. It is tougher and larger than any fiber target out there and all free. I had a deal a few years back when that softer hot melt glue came out with my wood arrows. I got all of my points back by, once a year, pulling all of the plastic out on my nieghbors large driveway, when they gone, stretching it all out and then stuffing a new bag. What remained on his drive way were all of the target points that got caught on tough spots and broadheads from shots that missed the deer target. I have since gone to Stanley amber hot melt and no longer have any points come off.