Victory VAP shafts?

[Iowabowhunter]

Im wondering if anybody uses these ultra small diameter shafts? Should perform real well in high winds plus they penetrate like crazy.
I've also come across some shafts by Deer Crossing Archery that are the same diameter but less expensive.

[Don Batten]

I'm using them. Only complaint is the insert/outsert. the aluminum ones will bend if given enough abuse. They do offer a stainless version and I think there are some more options. I only have experience with the aluminum. It's something I can live with as the pros far outweigh the cons. I shoot lower poundage more accurately and have been getting great penetration on deer and pigs under 125lbs with these shafts. Lots of info on them from our compound brothers over on AT.

[Bowwild]

I'm going to try FMJ Injexions this year.

[Shane H]

Ive been playing with them a bit. Great shafts, aluminum inserts are pretty soft and bend very easy. and even with the steel inserts which are great, They are still not as durable as my gold tip kinetics with aluminum footing. Just made some short, 1/2" aluminum sleeves for behind the steel insert and those seem to be indestructible. Jury still out for me. I like the concept.

[McDave]

Have been shooting them for almost a year, and like them very much. Don't know that they shoot that much better than the GT's I was shooting before, though.  Depending on how much past center your shelf is cut, you may need to pad the strike plate a little to move the shaft out past the center line of the bow.

[threeunder]

Rbcorbitt should be along shortly.  He's a big fan and has had a lot of success with them.
I've got a half dozen and really like them.
Don't care for the standard outserts.  I'm using the ones from Firenock.  Bob turned me on to those also.

[Keith Langford]

Started shooting them after attending Rick Welch class last april, love em, they don't make a good stump shooting arrow though, not extremely durable but for hunting and every day shooting and 3d there great, easy to tune, fly great, after tuning of course. I use the standard aluminum inserts, no problems as long as you prep the shaft and I use super glue to install them, that's what victory recommends, I called them,

[Iowabowhunter]

Just wondering if many people hunt with them? I like the idea of the ultra small diameter shafts, but they are light. To get up to the9-10 gpp range I would need a 92 grain outsert plus 250 grain point.

Shooting a 58# Kanati longbow

[bigbadjon]

The FMJ Deep Six arrows are probably closer in weight to what a traditional shooter wants. I also believe the insert looks stronger than Victory's outsert. A&H also secretly slipped out a deep six glue on point adapter. That makes the injexion arrows much more useful. As for the price difference... you have to decide if its worth it.

[Iowabowhunter]

I might just go with Deer Crossing Archery's SD Hunter Custom Select shafts. Heavier than VAP's and less expensive than Injexions while being the same diameter.

[Dirtybird]

You could always put weed whacker line inside the shafts to get the weight up.

[Justin Vinci]

Neve thought about weed wackier line to make arrows hevier

[Iowabowhunter]

Just epoxy the weedwacker line into the shaft? How does that effect the spine?

[Dirtybird]

Should effect the spine that bad.  And you shouldn't have to epoxy it in, it's a tight fit.

[rbcorbitt]

I use the VAP 400's, cut to 30.5".  I glue in an internal footing of 4mm stainless rod cut to 1.25" long, glue on the AeroOutsert and use anywhere from 200-300 grains up front depending upon the bow set-up.  With a 300 grain point or broadhead, I end up with a 620 grain set-up with EFOC.  Hits hard and penetrates like crazy.  With the addition of the insert, the shaft is reinforced greatly against breakage.  Most all my bows are between 53-57#'s, so I'm easily getting 9 - nearly 11 grains per pound.

Have hunted with 2 blade broadheads up to now. Looking forward to trying them with a 300 grain Big Jim Big 3 head on hogs down in Florida this coming April!

[rbcorbitt]

Meant to add that there are different grades of VAP's (V1, V3, etc.).  Although I use V1's for hunting (it's a confidence thing), I have found that you can get the same flight characteristics with the less expensive shafts by trimming equal amounts of both ends of the shafts (obviously only works if you are cutting shafts to length).

[JRY309]

I have both VAP V1 400 and Easton Injexion 400.Both are good shafts,but I like Injexion a bit more as they have  heavier GPI.Easton Injexion 400 have a 8.9 GPI and the VAP 400 have a 7.1 GPI.They both have a .166 ID,Injexion come with G-nocks and VAP come with Bohning F-nocks(Bohning's replacement for G-nocks).So I took some VAP Interceptor outserts and put them in my Injexion 400 so I could use 5/16" points or heads instead of the Deep Six inserts and points.Deep Six inserts limits you to 100 gr. points or 100 gr. broadheads.

[rraming]

Originally posted by Dirtybird:
Should effect the spine that bad.  And you shouldn't have to epoxy it in, it's a tight fit.

More weight will make the shaft act a little weaker, same with tubes.

I have seen these shaft at RMSG, I had some VForce shafts but had an issue with the spine tolerance. The Victory shafts are made in Mexico.

I am having the same issue as some of you stated - weight - most shafts are either too heavy or too light for my 47-49 lb bows. I am used to 100 grain inserts and 125 heads - I have so many 125 heads I would hate to switch things around.
May just take the 11 grain route and quick over thinking it.

[Iowabowhunter]

Hey rbcorbitt-could you post a how to for the internal footing by chance?