Advice for Bear TD shooting left

[beaunaro]

I know we have many Bear TD fans.

Mine is an A riser with 50# no1 limbs. It's 56" long and about 53# at 28.

I draw 27".

It doesn't seem to matter which arrow I shoot, (lighter weight ones just fly and land higher),
but they all end up in the target 3" left of where I am looking with a ten yard shot.

I've tried AD lites with 175 gns up
front (total weight of the 29-1/2" arrow is 570.

I've tried GT 35-55s with 145 grns up front (total wt of 29-1/2 " arrow is 435)

I've tried CE 150s with 125 grns (400 grns)

I don't think the bow is anywhere near center cut.
I removed the relatively thick leather side plate.

That helped some, but not enough.

I love the looks and feel of the bow...just can't seem to shoot it.

I hate to think that I just have to give up and aim(look) right of where I want to hit.

I'm not alone...I've talked to a few others with the same problem.

Yesterday I ran all those same arrow combinations thru my Rick Welch Dakota and my SXT Zipper.
They didn't seem to care...left right was all good.

What should I try?

[Bjorn]

Since you don't say I will assume you are a rightie. The Bear takedowns were all cut to center. The two other bows you mention are cut past center. Which would suggest that all the arrow combinations you mentioned are stiff. I only shoot wood so I can't help you with the carbon shaft model numbers. I do know that carbon gets stiff fast when cutting so that could contribute as well. The fact that removing the thick side plate lessened the shooting left supports the overspined suspicion. Have you tried bareshafting?

[CoilSpring]

I think Bjorn is taking you in the right direction. Try 175, 200, or even 250 up front and see if it doesn't shift to the right for you.

Let us know how it goes.

[59Alaskan]

You could try a fat "cushy" strike plate too...something with give.  It will be fatter than what you have now, but the "give" will have a favorable impact on arrow flight when it comes to the condition you are describing.  I have found that within reason the composition (hardness) of the strike plate has more effect than the actually width of it.  I really like Martin "rug" rest material.  It is directional so you could put it on different ways and obtain a different composition to the plate.

I too think Bjorn is overall pointing you down the proper path.

[BigJim]

Your arrows are too stiff! or your arrows are too stiff!

Your bow doesn't shoot to the right, you shoot your bow to the right. The arrows aren't flexing enough to make it back around to your line of sight. All the arrows you speak of are roughly the same spine, or at least similar enough that you are getting the same read.
The 3555's would work if they were longer (they now come 32"s) and or you had a couple hundred grains up front. The cx 150's may be made to work also but I think you would be better off with the cx 90's

BIgJIm

[hogless]

Raze your brace height 1/8 in at a time some times that works

[hogless]

My bad that should be lower your brace height 1/8 in at a time for a stiff arrow

[TOEJAMMER]

You could try one of the skinny strings such as an SBD which might help.

[billy shipp]

Try a weaker spined arrow and I think you'll hit where you're looking.

[TRAD101]

hey Irv

I would agree with big jim, you are too stiff. I
have some cx 90's 29" you are more than welcome to try, or I have the components to load up the
front of your 150's, but as jim said I think you
would be happier with the cx 90's. give me a call
if I can help you out and let's get together this
summer.

[hvyhitter]

Weaker arrows or stop shooting your other bows for a while. Different bows sometimes have different POIs just because they sit in your hand different.................Shoot just the one bow and your brain slowly reboots to the correct impact point.............

[beaunaro]

Thanks to all of you guys and esp to Big Jim...
I bought the bow from you buddy,and it says a lot that you would help out.
Thanks Bjorn. I think I am hearing that this bow needs a lighter spined arrow.

Hey Rick, when I get back home,we will try some of your 90's

Thanks a million, everyone.

[Phil Magistro]

It is interesting to read your question because I have had a similar experience over the years with several Bear takedowns.  There are times if I'm shooting other bows and pick up the Bear I immediately start shooting left.  It's not the spine of the arrow.  I figured that out a long time ago.  Must be something in the grip or something caused by shooting multiple bows.   It's not permanent.  After I continue shooting things move right back to center.