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Author Topic: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness  (Read 483 times)

Offline hockey7

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2014, 06:11:00 AM »
-try the Helix sharpener from Stricklands archery. Comes in left/right bevel and puts a razor edge on in a couple strokes. Very impressive.

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2014, 09:18:00 AM »
The genius of the KME is that the clamp is angled which brings the broadhead at a right angle perpendicular to the stone. It allows you to consistently match the bevel of the broadhead along the entire length of the blade as the stone contacts it.  I actually sharpen my Grizzlies with a Tormek sharpener using a jig I fashioned from a KME sharpener, lol.  

From my experience, the Grizzly single bevels are a little bit more difficult to sharpen not because of the single bevel, but because of the hardness of the steel.  I get mine scapel sharp.

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2014, 09:37:00 AM »
KME Knife sharpener here as well on 180 grizz. I think they are almost easier than double bevels.  Most of mine , if not all came to me with a burr already on them. They are the new ones.
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2014, 10:58:00 AM »
They are indeed hard to sharpen, the lack of flatness on the back side doesn't help so as mentioned that's the first thing to do.  I put a micro bevel on the back side it's very small so I doubt it affects the single bevel performance but it does make fast work of getting to the final "sharpness" that I want.  The KME is a great jig by the way.

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2014, 02:46:00 PM »
Call Ron, have someone who can write down what he tells you. He will walk you though a head, so have pal put it on paper. Then put heads in safe!!!!  They will hurt you. Good luck, you are about to know how toget them sharp
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2014, 11:36:00 PM »
I really enjoy experimenting with different broadheads.  The Howard Hill is probably the hardest broadhead to master, but I finally figured it out.  

As to the Grizzly, The biggest shortcoming I have encountered is my lack of ability to make it retain it's edge without having to retouch it up.  Others don't seem to have this problem.

Offline Ray Hammond

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2014, 12:30:00 PM »
don't bevel the flat side of the single bevel...counterproductive.. now on top of the angled side you have to worry about keeping a second angle correct on what makes it a superior cutting tool- a flat side.

You don't need to go through all these machinations.

Simply flatten the flat side first, by laying your 12 inch flat bastard file on the table and drawing the flat side along it until you see that you have removed paint and indeed can feel it is flat with your fingers.

Then take your same file and holding the head against the corner of a table, or stair railing, or whatever you can hold it against that will allow you to keep it rock steady, push the file from back to front, without using much pressure, along the edge until you see what I call the 'foil' edge form.

Flip the head and do the second side, then move to a piece of cardboard, rough side up, laid flat on the table, and 'strop' the broadhead back and forth on each edge until you see the foil peel off like an apple peel- it'll curl up and come off.

At that point- STOP. Anything else you do is going to be counterproductive to that edge.

Put some chapstick on the blade edges, put them in your quiver and go kill something.
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2014, 08:17:00 AM »
I had the same problem with Grizzly 200gr.  I used the same method to sharpen my 160 gr and they shaved hair.  Could not believe the difference between the 2 heads.  The 200 gr were too hard and I have not changed the temper yet.

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 08:45:00 AM »
These heads are not hard to sharpen. I have spent a lot of time and money to insure that. They have a burr right off of the grinder and will nearly shave you then.
If you having trouble sharpening a Grizzly give me a call. I'm happy to walk you through it.This is the second time on this post I have asked for anyone having any trouble to give me a call so I can help. IF YOU DON'T CALL I CANT HELP YOU!

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 08:50:00 AM »
I can take the Grizz and a diamond stone and piece of leather and have that puppy shaving in about 3 minutes by hand unless its already been shot through deer and dirt then it may take an extra minute.RC

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2014, 10:09:00 AM »
If you are having a hard time with the new grizzlies, swallow your pride and call Zipper. I would rather sharpen these heads than any other head,  and I have a bunch.  Once you get the hang of it they go pretty quickly.
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2014, 10:48:00 AM »
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These heads are not hard to sharpen. I have spent a lot of time and money to insure that. They have a burr right off of the grinder and will nearly shave you then.
If you have trouble sharpening a Grizzly give me a call. I'm happy to walk you through it.This is the second time on this post I have asked for anyone having trouble to give me a call so I can help. IF YOU DON'T CALL I CANT HELP YOU!
Bill I have been wanting to try some of these heads. Is a KME absolutely necessary to get them
hunting sharp. I just don't want a broadhead that I have to buy a sharpening system other than a file and strop. Nothing against KME. I'm sure they are great and I would love to have one but money is tight.
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2014, 10:54:00 AM »
^^^ no, a KME isn't necessary.  A file is all you need. $10 at the hardware store

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2014, 10:55:00 AM »
Lots of very good advise. I think that if you are using a file not only let the file do the work but you need to be consistent with the angle of the bevel. It needs to be flat not rounded and for best results it needs to be the same angle through out the bevel. So pay attention to how your are filing. Slow and steady for the beginner is best. Using a jig type sharpener like KME (the best) usually will help you establish a uniform  bevel. m2c

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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2014, 11:39:00 AM »
Good to hear. I got files and can sharpen my two blade STOS and Ace heads shaving sharp. Maybe I will get a KME for Christmas until then it's good to know they can be sharpened with a file.
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Re: Grizzly Single Bevel Sharpness
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2014, 02:35:00 PM »
Ray, I liked the idea of using the file and cardboard for stropping. The only part I had a hard time following and visualizing in my head is the second part where put against something to file the sharpen the edge do you happen to have any pics of that or drawing to clear up by chance?

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