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Author Topic: Point length discussion  (Read 310 times)

Offline snowplow

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Point length discussion
« on: June 23, 2014, 06:32:00 PM »
Hey dudes, as a previous compounder I always ran short broadheads to mimic my fieldpoints. Now as a Trad guy I am seeing the need for cut on contact broadheads like the Delta, Woodsman, and Interceptor.

Even if you were a true instinctive shooter (which it sounds is exceedingly rare), does not the extra length totally screw up your site window?

Honestly this just seems like it would screw me up so bad as to make it impossible.

Offline Pete McMiller

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 06:49:00 PM »
Actually it did early on but once I realized the issue I have trained my secondary vision to key in on the brass insert on the end of my arrow rather than the point itself.  Of all the form issues we deal with, this was one of the easiest to resolve.  I now shoot Grizzly Kodiaks at 3"+ and don't even think about it.
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Offline Jerry Jeffer

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 07:18:00 PM »
Not at all. Why would it? I look at what I want to hit, not the point of my arrow.
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Offline slowbowjoe

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 07:47:00 PM »
"Not at all. Why would it? I look at what I want to hit, not the point of my arrow."

Like this. I don't consider my style "truly instinctive", closer to split vision, as I see the arrow peripherally for alignment. Don't look at the point, though.

Offline Bjorn

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 11:36:00 PM »
If I see my arrow I have to start the shot sequence all over!   :bigsmyl:

Offline Matty

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 11:51:00 PM »
Yes I do have some issues with this. If you shoot 2 blade heads you can orient them so that they are thinner appearing and become less distracting.. Seems to help

Offline Longbow58

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 06:34:00 AM »
Used to when I first started, but not anymore. Pick my spot and get the starvation bead on it and pull through my shot. Agree with Slowbowjoe.

Offline wtpops

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 06:59:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Bjorn:
If I see my arrow I have to start the shot sequence all over!    :bigsmyl:  
X2

Now i do orientate my broadheads all the same so i don't get distracted by a blade sticking up in the middle of everything
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Offline snowplow

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 10:46:00 AM »
I like the idea of the insert!

Offline Orion

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 10:50:00 AM »
If you gap shoot, any broad head can be a problem.  Using the insert rim as Pete suggests, or painting a ring on your arrow or putting a mark at the back of your broad head can serve as the forward aiming point.

If you shoot split vision, or even more "instinctive" by focusing only on the target, point style makes little difference because it's either in your peripheral vision or you don't consciously see it at all.

Keep shooting.  You'll work out something that works for you.

Offline ChuckC

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 11:44:00 AM »
You can glue your heads on so that they lie flat or horizontal .  then, glue on a small spring steel wire (onto the broadhead, near the tip) that goes up maybe 1/2" and on the top of that place a small dollop of epoxy glue, which when dry, will be painted.  Voila !  perfection     :laughing:  

Having different length arrows, whatever the reason for their length, might cause shooting differences if you gap using them as aiming points.  It was discussed earlier that a fella might have a 10 yd, 20 yd and 30 yd arrow made up ahead of time for those shots.

or, just......don't look

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 01:14:00 PM »
For shooting with some degree of secondary sighting it is good to have something on the shaft brighter behind the head.  With dark shafts, I like a chartreuse ring behind the head.  I also mount the blades vertical to keep my eye off the different angle of the blade edge.  No one has tunnel vision narrow enough to not see the arrow, it is right there.  There may be some set ups with wide solid heads that could get the broadhead arrow with a vertically mounted head striking the target in a different spot than a matching field point.  All of your arrows should be test shot anyway, it is something to watch for.

Offline reddogge

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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 03:10:00 PM »
Even if you looked directly at your arrow you can't see the point unless you are anchoring somewhere around your chest. All you will see is the radius of the arrow at the back of the point whether field point or broadhead. So no, it will not mess you up.
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Re: Point length discussion
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 03:35:00 PM »
I anchor middle finger past and inline of the corner of my mouth, I can see the flat side on my four blade Herters with either eye.  To not see it the arrow has to be very high on the face.  It is best to learn to ignore it and have something else on the end of the arrow to be in vision if you are a secondary Vision shooter.  If you do not acknowledge the arrow in your aiming, just practice shooting them at a large foam target.  Soon enough it will not matter, but shooting a quiver full of broadheads into a tight group can get costly.

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