Tie on nock question...

[Lonehowl]

I have a tie in nock, you know, the kind you can screw up or down on the serving to fine tune,..my question is, is there a good way to secure it after I get it where I want it? Super glue, epoxy, or?
Is it necessary?  Just don't want it to move accidentally.
Thanks,
Mark

[Rock 'N Bow]

It really depends on how tight you tie it on. Lately I've been tying them on a little looser so I can adjust them easier. Super glue does help to keep them in place, although they rarely move without it.

[Bud B.]

If tied on tightly enough, you can move it intentionally, but incidental moves are nearly impossible. I tie mine tight enough to stay put unless I twist them to make them move. You can get too tight, though, and it'll be there until you cut it off.

I do not glue mine on. I have found that if the string of the tied on nock should become frayed from lots of shooting, then the next one tied on will have difficulty moving due to the excess glue left behind from the first if the first one was glued in place. After learning that nightmare, I no longer glue mine in place.

[McDave]

I find that I don't have any reason to move a nock once I figure out where it should go by bare shaft tuning, so I just tie them on tight without gluing.  They wear a little faster without glue, but are a lot easier to cut off and replace than ones that are glued on.

[damascusdave]

There is some evidence that super glue may actually weaken the string underneath the serving leading to possible breakage...best to just tie them tightly as indicated

DDave

[Butch Speer]

Dave, what seems to be the the problem with super glue?

I use a nail knot,and never put any glue on mine. I have never had a nail knot move on its own!

I have read that too much super glue can deteriorate the strands under the serving and potentially cause the string to fail.

Bisch

[halfseminole]

Cyanoacrylate glues alter the base materials of strings, as well as creating a brittle point where the string can crack or wear the area around it.

Sorry, I just happened to know the answer.  I need to learn the nail knot.

[The Whittler]

I may be wrong but I think the super glue when it hardens it can rub/chafe and fray the string, results in a broken string.

[motorhead7963]

WOW! how much super glue does one need to hold your nock in place? I would suspect it would take a lot for it to saturate all the way to the actual string. but maybe I'm missing something?
I use dental floss for my nocking point, one knot on top and one underneath, I wrap the serving and tie it off then coat the floss with super glue then trim.

[slowbowjoe]

When you have it tied how you want, you can melt the tag end and press that melted end - neatens it up and firms it up at the same time. If using glue, use the gel form of superglue; doesn't soah through the strands near as much as the thinner stuff.

[Ron Vought]

Use B50 to tie on your nocks. Start tying the B50 with 5-7 over hand knots that are opposite to each other on the bow string. When you get to the end just cut off the B50 and leave the tag ends a little long. Now take both the tag ends and touch it with a lighter until it burns down to the knot. You will see a flame on both tag ends as it melts toward the last knot you tied.  When the tag ends burn down to the knot quickly touch it with your finger and press the burning tag ends right into the knot. The wax and string material on the dacron tag ends actually melts into the knot securing the whole entire string knock. Be careful with the lighter to not burn the serving. No need for glue or fighting with a fancy knot end to tie the string nock to the string.

Leon Stewart showed me this little trick and it works very well.

Ron

[Bowwild]

I always tie my nock locators as tight as possible. I melt the ends as per Ron's direction above. If they need moved I simply them cut them off and apply new ones. They do not budge.

Once I get the top one set correctly I put another under the nock with about a 1/16" gap to prevent pinch off of the nock.

I would never put glue on my bow string. I trust only one source regarding this decision and that's the maker of the bowstring material.

[damascusdave]

If you simply go to bed in the Mountain Time Zone by the time you get up others in the Eastern times zones will have answered any questions for you...capably as we have come to expect on Tradgang...if you have ever used Locktite 420 you know that thin cyanoacrylate glue will end up a long way from where you apply it...it does make sense that a gel glue would stay a little closer to home...still as Roy mentions BCY says its use is a no no...I solve the problem the same way I make strings, I let someone else do it, the same way I tie flies

DDave

[Caughtandhobble]

About the only thing that I could add is, the tie on nock should be at least as large diameter as your serving string. The larger nock string will keep from separating your serving, which could potentially damage your string.

Bisch mentioned the "Nail Knot" I use the same knot. I have found that using a drinking straw about an inch long makes the knot very easy to do and it comes out perfect every time. As also mentioned the nail knot tied properly will not require any glue.

[M60gunner]

I tie my nock pts with waxed thread used to sew leather. I use the tie it tight method, apply some string wax and melt it in using my heat gun. So far, so good after a few years. I stopped using super glue because I did not like the "feel" of the nock point.