Usually don't get a good snow until after or around Thanksgiving, but not uncommon to get a skid of snow as early as Veteran's Day. Can vividly remember tracking and chasing rutting bucks in snow on Veteran's Day.... Then again can remember it seemingly raining hard daily for 2 solid weeks in November, but also remember many Indian Summer days....
What's the Farmers Almanac say ...
Seriously, its usually more right than wrong... Heard it's suppose to be a colder than normal winter, much like last winter...
Although rare, few years ago, temperatures even dropped down into the teens, but reguardless, about the second week of Novenmber is when temperatures start to really drop overnight, and you know your Indian Summer and or fall is gone, or about over...