Lets talk Toelke

[nineworlds9]

Biathlon', Scott', and TxAg tell it straight.  Really man you just need to try that Chinook and maybe a Whip if you don't fall in love with the Chinook right off the bat.  Either way I still feel your needs and desires based on all your other posts are best served by a Java', just my 2c.  I love me some Toelke bows, my personal favorite model is the 64" SS recurve, but I'm gaga over my 2pc Java Man Elkheart.  Love a Helms Deep too.  For an X factor and another incredible shooter I also recommend a 58" Centaur if you wanna really taste some fine cookin'. LOL

[KyRidgeRunner]

I had a 58" take down and draw 27".  It was silky smooth and my favorite bow I've owned to date.... I had a weak moment last year and sold it     I will say if I had the money and was ordering another bow itd be a 58" whip.  I will say I bought my bow second hand and Dan was always still very helpful when I called him, I'd probably consider his advice if I were you and shoot the longer now for a while.

Best of luck to ya!

[snowplow]

I'd really like a 58" centaur. I just don't know if l can handle my current bow for another 12 months!

[duncan idaho]

"Either way I still feel your needs and desires based on all your other posts are best served by a Java', just my 2c"

I think you are driving yourself crazy, its time to decide and start shooting:)

[Biathlonman]

My go to bows are a Javaman Elkheart and a Toelke Chinook. If I ever get rich I'll have Dan build me a custom T/D whip with a chinook grip on it.  The Whip truly is an exceptional bow I just don't love the standard grip with no discernible palm swell.

[Gene R]

I have  a 64 inch Toelke Super Static bought from a fellow lwaller here.  All I can say is amazing! The bow is so smooth fast and just performs  great. I am wondering if another Toelke will perform as well as it because I really love the Toelke's grip and overal craftmanship. I have a 28 inch draw and the 64 performs super, the short bows sound interesting though.

[slowbowjoe]

My wife had a 58" Whip for her first bow; she was drawing a little less than 27". Very sweet bow. After a couple of years, her draw increased to 28", and the bow didn't behave so well. I draw around 27.5", and found it was not very forgiving at that draw.
Well she loved the bow, and accepted she needed to replace it with another Toelke. Talked to Dan and Jared, and she ended up with another Whip, but 62". Definitely shoots better for her (and me, when I try it now and then). I'd go 62" or 64", as other folks are saying.
Never shot a Chinook, but talked with Dan about one, he told me a 58" Chinook would be about like a 64" Whip.

[Jedimaster]

Both the whip & chinook are fine bows. Both are quick & quiet. I shoot the chinook currently simply because it will handle my 29" draw length in a shorter bow. I understand you wanting the whip and I keep a longbow around too but don't try to make a square peg fit a round hole. If short is your primary desire then the chinook is the better choice. There are lots of other options out there for a short "longbow" but I'd listen to the Toelke's when it comes to the whip.
In short, if you can get past the chinook being a recurve, and not a longbow, it is a fine hunting tool and will serve you well.

[cch]

Snowplow, if you really want to order something I will let you borrow one of my bows to hold you over.

By the way I think there is a trad shoot Oct 4,5th down in Enumclaw at Cedar River Bowmen.

[BOHO]

Jedimaster is a wise one who speaks. I have a Chinook that will be here in a couple months thats 58" and around 40@28, I draw 29 as well. Hope I can break it in right before Jan 31

[snowplow]

Hey Biathlonman, how are the toelke grips different? I was under the impression that Toelke's leather covered grip was slightly different from the non covered grip, buf that both were offered on the Chinook and Whip. Basically both had the same 2 grip options?

[snowplow]

Originally posted by cch:
Snowplow, if you really want to order something I will let you borrow one of my bows to hold you over.  

That's the most generous offer ever. I could never take you up on it; its asking too much. But hats off again, your a class act Chris!

[maineac]

U have a 58" Whip and a 28" draw.  I like shorter bows for shooting from low ground blinds and treestands.  I don't own a longer longbow so take my opinion for what it is worth.  I love the whip.  Faster than my same weight recurve (based on fletching sound).  It is more finicky than the heavier takedown riser, but when I shoot it regularly it is a tack driver. I have never found it to pinch my fingers or stack.

[Biathlonman]

Chinooks have just a touch more palm swell then whips across the full spectrum of normal and classic.

[NotDylan]

Originally posted by snowplow:
Hey Biathlonman, how are the toelke grips different? I was under the impression that Toelke's leather covered grip was slightly different from the non covered grip, buf that both were offered on the Chinook and Whip. Basically both had the same 2 grip options?

Correct, the non wrapped grip has the thumb locator feature where as the wrapped version does not.  Also, as his recurves are much wider than the whips, the grips on the recurces are a little beefier.  

Here's a Kestrel and Whip made with the same hand tracing for comparison.