update on "slow bow" thread

[Sam McMichael]

Part of practicing with a bow is to develop proficiency by adjusting one's shooting to the performance of the bow. So, once you get used to shooting a bow it simply shoots how it shoots, and speed is not particularly important whether hunting or shooting targets.

[Cavscout9753]

I noticed my vixen was slow compared to my Stik R/D. But its pretty close to my Grizzly. Its very quiet though, so I shift points back over to the vixen for hunting. I figure the FPS difference between most any bow I'd bother to shoot is still not going to be fast enough to outrun a deer, might as well throw my chips in the pile of "stick them before they notice youre even there". If I was more of a serious target shooter I think the flatter arc of descent would be beneficial, but I'm a hunter first and foremost so anything I do with a bow must be the same as for what I'd hunt with; bow, arrow weight, etc. i don't mind people worrying about their bows speed, people put value in things many different ways and there are probably lots of cases that speed does matter, such as flight shooting, just not to me. Either way, even the slugs need love now and then!!

[Ray Johnson]

I never shoot much past 20 yards anyway so speed isn't that important.I guess it's probably more of a mental thing than anything else.I think most people would pick the faster bow if they had to choose between two if accuracy was the same.I was just surprised by the speed loss.I'm over it now and am just working on getting my accuracy down with this bow.It's a very different animal than my recurve but I like it and now I don't think I will ever shoot recurves again.That could change tomorrow but I'm really liking this longbow.It's more of a hybrid really but the light physical weight and quietness compared to my BW recurve is unreal.

[Cavscout9753]

I hear you and agree 100%. I think the hybrids make for a great happy-medium between the curves and the longbows. I loved my hybrid, but it was the begining of the end of my love affair with recurves, haha. They just feel too ungraceful in my hand after shooting longbows. Don't get me wrong, I think recurves look the best as far as the woods go, and when I want to nail the kill-zone almost without fail I take one out now and then. BW's seem to have massive risers to me, so I imagine after some solid time with the LB the BW is going to feel like a mack truck in your hand. Haha

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Hey Bro.... rattle my cage when you get ready to have something with a bit more horsepower built for you... I can get you fixed up shooting 10 gpp arrows in the 190's with no problem...

Don't let these guys pull your leg too much on the "speed doesn't matter" mantra.... Good flat trajectory is a thing of beauty IMO.

[duncan idaho]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. truth.^

[grayfeather]

157,is about right for most bows with an arrow weight of 440 grains set up like yours .you must be using at least a 175grain tip. if you drop your tip weight 30grains you will get back 10fps.the sbd string helps mostly with 40# or less.also you can look at your feathers.5 inch feathers cause a lot of drag ,you could try 4 inch. the max recommended point weight is 150grains, that would give you a max arrow weight  of about 416grains.if you want faster play with the arrow !

[Pine]

Like I tell the guys I shoot with , if you are that worried about speed , get wheels .
I agree that trad shooters should avoid the electronics , if your bow hits where you are looking , well , if its not broke , don't fix it .  

[Thumper Dunker]

Originally posted by mike g:
Ok, I may not be the smartest, But why do you need speed to shoot 3D, Do they jump the string..?

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[Flying Dutchman]

Originally posted by mike g:
Ok, I may not be the smartest, But why do you need speed to shoot 3D, Do they jump the string..?

I am a 3D archer and participate in lots of tournaments. I need a very flat trajectory, due to how the targets are placed. Sometimes you have just a tiny hole true the branches you can shoot trough. Slower speed means a curve in your trajectory which will cause hitting branches.
We also have to hit targets who are at 60 yards. Here in Europe the targets are getting more difficult to hit every year. Hence a fast bow gives you an advantage.

[Ray Johnson]

grayfeather,yes,there are some things I could do with the arrow but I hate to.I am shooting a 175gr tip.I'm shooting a Simmons broadhead.I love that head.Also,I touch the feather to the tip of my nose when I anchor so different feathers are out.My arrow weight helps keep the bow quiet(which I love,especially after shooting a BW PSA for years).I will just stick with my current setrup.I havve gotten over the loss of speed in my mind and am just working on accuracy for now with this bow.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.I am getting an SBD string in a few days and that will be the last change I make.

[Bldtrailer]

My slowest bow is also one of my FAVORATE most consistent accurate (but rain