First Time Woody User

[Jay-D]

Hey guys, i was wondering if i could get some advice on my first spine selection of wood arrows. I have been Shooting carbons and a few aluminum shafts since i started shooting, but since im gonna have a good bit of christmas money to spend here in a little while  I was gonna get some wood arrows to shoot and use on my first traditional bow hunt for hog and do it full traditional. I had chosen the 3 rivers hunter shafts but i am willing to look elsewhere if i can get a stronger or higher quality shaft. I will be shooting my 64in Samick Journey 50lb @28inches but my draw is 30.25so im "guessing" it is sitting around 58lbs at that length. Regardless of the spine i have to get i wanna shoot a 100 grain woody weight and a 200 grain kodiak but i am not hard set on the broadhead weight. I would really appreciate if you could maybe give examples of your setups or just give an estimated spine range.

All suggestions are greatly appreciated thanks in advance.

[centaur]

Get in touch with Tommy or Danny at Rocky Mt. Specialty Gear. They have very good wood shafts that are precision weighed and spined. They can get you where you want to be.

[Orion]

Why do you want to shoot that much weight up front? That's going to give you an arrow in the 800 grain range (in part because it's going to require a very high spine and the higher the spine, the higher the physical weight). Sure it will hit like a ton of bricks, but will be quite slow and drop very quickly, even with a 58# bow.  

If you were shooting a standard head, say 125-150 grains, you would need about 70-75# spine.  If you want to put 300 grains up front, you'll need at least 90# spine.  You won't find that in most materials in 11/32 diameter shafts.  Will need to go to a 23/64, I suspect.

One of the differences between wood and carbons is that you can't front load woods like you can carbons, because they often can't attain the spine needed to handle the extra weight in front.

Good luck ion your endeavor.

[Jay-D]

Thanks for the suggestion centaur. Orion thank you very much for the info. How about 75 grain woody weight and 160 grain grizzly?

[moebow]

Jay,

You are going to find that wood arrows don't like a LOT of point weight.  The OLD standard for wood is 125 grains.  That's what the spine rating is set up for.  The more weight you have up front in the point, the more likely and easier it will be for the shafts to break off right behind the point.

Arne

[Jim Wright]

From my own tinkering, 200 grains is the most I shoot up front on wood arrows. I shoot a Dan Toelke Super D, 55# @28" and at my draw it is app. 57#. Douglas Fir shafts 30"s throat of nock to back of point long with 190 grain field points weighing 650 grains total fly beautifully. In my opinion Douglas Fir from Surewood Shafts is consistently the finest wood shafting you can get and they are great guys to deal with as well.
  Finally, and this is just a suggestion but get someone to help you verify your draw length.

[Jay-D]

Thanks Moebow and Jim. Im gonna call around to my local academy and gander mountain to see if they have a bow scale

[Onehair]

Check you PM

[Jim Wright]

Jay-D, this getting old is starting to become noticeable, in my reply I should have noted that the spine range on the arrows I described is 75-80 lbs.

[Fletcher]

I find 200 gr heads on Surewood's douglas fir to make a great wood hunting arrow.  Your Journey is cut a bit past center and should gain 2.5-3 lbs per inch of draw which will put you a little over 55 lb so with a 31" BOP arrow and 200 gr head, I figure an 80-85 spine, maybe a bit more.  If these were to shoot a bit weak, you can build the side plate out a touch and tune them right in.  I'd suggest asking for shafts on the light side as that spine will average 500 +- grains bare putting you at well over 700 gr for a finished arrow.  This is with fir, cedar at that spine is scarce.  Going to a 160 gr head will cut you some slack on both spine and arrow weight.  Enjoy your woods!

[Jay-D]

Thanks alot fletcher

[Jay-D]

Im wanna know what you guys opinions are on purpleheart shafts as a tough hog shaft?

[TOEJAMMER]

You might want to contact Snag, a Tradgang Sponsor here, and he can help you on all your wood questions.  The information and counsel on wood arrows he provides is as good as you will find anywhere as are the arrows he makes

[Dan bree]

Check out Kevin forester . Forester wood shaft . He has very nice hardwoods you mite like.