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Author Topic: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'  (Read 204 times)

Offline snowplow

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Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« on: April 14, 2015, 10:41:00 AM »
Hi guys, I was just painting a new set of shafts with the Rustoleum Fluorescent spray paint and am running into frustrations. I first prepped and painted with Rustoleum Paint and Prime white since it was on the shelf. And then with the Florescent. I let the primer dry to the touch but was only about 20  mins or so. Both times (yep done it twice) the Fluorescent paint crackled horribly as it dried.

I have ran into this in the past and it seemed super thin coats make it work. Not even that helped. The Fluorescent paint goes on a bare shaft just fine. Just not over the primer. It looks to me like the paint and primer are incompatable.

Anybody have some suggestions?

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 11:07:00 AM »
Many times when painting if you do not let your primer dry completely the thinner in the color coat with loosen the primer and cause it to do exactly what you are describing. I would allow it to dry overnight so that it has a chance to cure before you apply your color coat.

Beyond that, I would check and see if the primer is compatible with the arrow material. If it's carbon or aluminum you might have trouble with some binders used in the paint. With wood shafts you shouldn't have any trouble as long as the primer is fully dried.

If the color and primer is made by the same manufacturer they should be compatible. However I have seen that some paints use different thinners that are not compatible. Read the label on the cans and see what they recommend on primers and colors. I melted the primer off of a car rim I was painting by using the wrong thinner in the color coat.
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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 02:00:00 PM »
Thanks Dorado that's really helpful. That sounds exactly like the problem. Both were rustoleum. The primer works fine alone (I have used it on the past for white crown dip) and looks perfect. I'll recoat and let them sit overnight and try this again. I am no stranger to spray paints but Fluorescent paint just seems a little different. Although I cant tell how/why. Sure matches the Chartreuse feathers perfect though!

On a side note, for some reason your name instantly reminds me of the Elcamino monster truck Dorito commercial. Aparently Dorado is what my mind makes of a Dorito sponsered Monster Elcamino. =)

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 02:48:00 PM »
Read the instructions on the fluorescent paint.  Not all primers are compatible with topcoats.  I've had that problem in the past, and yes, it is very frustrating until you can figure out what is happening.
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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 03:36:00 PM »
On thing that works real well is to bottom coat with white then use Testers fluorescent green for a marbleized look as Mike Vines shows in the How-to -Resources section . Looks Fabulous!! Thanks Mike

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 03:55:00 PM »
The two are not compatible. You must strip your primer to get it to adhere. That's the way they do crackle finish on furniture using acrylic over oil or visa versa.
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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2015, 07:53:00 PM »
if the finish is crackling, I have had a  hard time keeping feathers from pulling the paint off the shaft and the feather with it.

It may be best to resolve this before fletching.
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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 11:12:00 AM »
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Originally posted by snowplow:
Thanks Dorado that's really helpful. That sounds exactly like the problem. Both were rustoleum. The primer works fine alone (I have used it on the past for white crown dip) and looks perfect. I'll recoat and let them sit overnight and try this again. I am no stranger to spray paints but Fluorescent paint just seems a little different. Although I cant tell how/why. Sure matches the Chartreuse feathers perfect though!

On a side note, for some reason your name instantly reminds me of the Elcamino monster truck Dorito commercial. Aparently Dorado is what my mind makes of a Dorito sponsered Monster Elcamino. =)
Glad I could be of some help. Let me know how it turns out.

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Offline MO Bow

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 06:32:00 AM »
i've used the flourescent spraypaint on top of white spray primer.  when i get home tonight, i'll post exactly what i used.

i did make sure the primer was dry and cured.  I let dry for 2 days before sparying the hot pink...

no issues...

 

Offline MO Bow

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 06:33:00 AM »
as you can see, i use rustoleum flo, but i forget what the primer was...

won't be home for another dozen hours or so.

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 10:36:00 AM »
I never used the primer on my carbons just sprayed two coats of Krylon yellow. It worked fine.

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Re: Fluorescent spray paint 'crown dip'
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 10:56:00 AM »
Thanks guys, that's the same stuff I used. I also tried it directly to the carbon with no issues. I noticed that the Fluorescent Rustoleum had acetone in it and some other stuff that I think is more aggressive than normal. So I went up to the local ace hardware yesterday and grabbed some white paint that also seemed aggressive. I forget what, but for outdoor metal benches ect. Kinda reminds me of epoxy paint. Anyhow I noticed it recommended cleanup with laquer thinner vs acetone/mineral spirits. It worked out well and boy can you tell its strong by the fumes! Anyhow they are all successfully yellow now. Thanks for all the help fellas!

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