It has been a while since I shot a Vanguard, but it was one of those bows I should have bought. Chris was at the Coon Rapids shoot had a Vanguard, not really into the style of longbow but Chris encouraged me to try his then new bow, I thought I would give it a try. Fit my hand very well, shot silver dollar sized groups, everything about the bow said "buy me" wasn't really looking hard, money really wasn't an issue, just wasn't buying a new bow at the time, Chris is a really great guy so no issues w there, when I thought about the bow a week or so later it was gone.......